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       #Post#: 117551--------------------------------------------------
       HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: ElleLamps
       Date: May 1, 2026, 4:15 pm
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       Hello,
       I received a parking ticket back in 2024, which I ignored, and
       now court proceedings have been issued against me by Moorside
       Legal.
       I followed the general advice on here, and filed a defence to
       their scant Particulars of Claim, stating that there were
       deficient. I also made no offer at mediation. The matter has
       been referred back to court, and a judge ordered Moorside legal
       to serve an updated Particulars of Claim, which they have done.
       I now need to draft a defence, and need some advice on how to
       respond.
       Background to the claim: My vehicle was parked on land
       controlled by PCM, not in a bay. The driver was there for a few
       minutes making a food delivery as part of their job. No ticket
       was placed on the car, but a NtD was posted to me, and then
       followed up with a NtK.
       Moorside has provided a contract with the landowner, but it is
       dated AFTER the date of the parking ticket. They also have
       incorrectly stated that a ticket was place on the car, when it
       wasn’t.
       Are you able to advise how to respond to the new Particulars of
       claim? The defence must be filed and served by 12 May 2026.
       Thanks
       Links to image of Particulars is below
  HTML https://ibb.co/FbfB07Dy
  HTML https://ibb.co/Ps8XhpnV
  HTML https://ibb.co/MDpqhXp8
       #Post#: 117563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: May 2, 2026, 4:00 am
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       So that we can properly advise, please show us the Exhibits that
       Moorside refer to in their updated particulars.
       Please also show us the order made by the judge, so that we can
       see if they have sufficiently met its requirements.
       #Post#: 117565--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: Dave65
       Date: May 2, 2026, 4:44 am
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       "but a NtD was posted to me, and then followed up with a NtK."
       Can you post up a copy of these?
       #Post#: 117758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: ElleLamps
       Date: May 4, 2026, 3:28 pm
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       I've now attached links to the documents which should be
       labeled.
       Exhibit sheet 1
  HTML https://ibb.co/gLkBb2XW
       
       Court order
  HTML https://ibb.co/60N1DVph
       Photo of vehicle at location (4)
  HTML https://ibb.co/gZ8FZvmG
       Photo of vehicle at location (3)
  HTML https://ibb.co/Jj7GfZ8k
       Photo of vehicle at location (2)
  HTML https://ibb.co/ZptDw26Q
       Photo of signage
  HTML https://ibb.co/v6NfJNBN
       Photo of vehicle at location
  HTML https://ibb.co/Ps04Q6v5
  HTML https://ibb.co/5XDT0rjN
       Exhibit sheet 4
  HTML https://ibb.co/rKW48X2z
  HTML https://ibb.co/rG2jMt6z
       Notice to keeper (2)
  HTML https://ibb.co/5WFzrmrB
       Notice to keeper (1)
  HTML https://ibb.co/tPLb4kPs
       Parking signage (2)
  HTML https://ibb.co/Y74LQYVD
       Exhibit sheet 3
  HTML https://ibb.co/dwZtw1Yx
       Parking signage (1)
  HTML https://ibb.co/YBNBtWS0
       Exhibit sheet 2
  HTML https://ibb.co/YTjvk2Dc
       Landowner authority (2)
  HTML https://ibb.co/4wxhdcZ7
       Landowner authority (1)
  HTML https://ibb.co/z0cntZ0
       #Post#: 117762--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 4, 2026, 3:56 pm
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       In terms of terminology, there was no Notice to Driver, which
       would have been attached to the car, but a Notice to Keeper
       followed by a reminder follow-up notice.
       --- Quote ---
       > 7(1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to driver
       for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(a) is given in accordance
       with this paragraph if the following requirements are met.
       >
       > (2)The notice must—
       >
       > (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was
       parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;
       >
       > (b)inform the driver of the requirement to pay parking charges
       in respect of the specified period of parking and describe those
       charges, the circumstances in which the requirement arose
       (including the means by which it was brought to the attention of
       drivers) and the other facts that made those charges payable;
       >
       > (c)inform the driver that the parking charges relating to the
       specified period of parking have not been paid in full and
       specify the total amount of the unpaid parking charges relating
       to that period, as at a time which is—
       >
       > (i)specified in the notice; and
       >
       > (ii)no later than the time specified under paragraph (f);
       >
       > (d)inform the driver of any discount offered for prompt
       payment and the arrangements for the resolution of disputes or
       complaints that are available;
       >
       > (e)identify the creditor and specify how and to whom payment
       may be made;
       >
       > (f)specify the time when the notice is given and the date.
       >
       > (3)The notice must relate only to a single period of parking
       specified under sub-paragraph (2)(a) (but this does not prevent
       the giving of separate notices each specifying different parts
       of a single period of parking).
       >
       > (4)The notice must be given—
       >
       > (a)before the vehicle is removed from the relevant land after
       the end of the period of parking to which the notice relates,
       and
       >
       > (b)while the vehicle is stationary,
       >
       > by affixing it to the vehicle or by handing it to a person
       appearing to be in charge of the vehicle.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The NtK does not specify a “period of parking” for one thing.
       It would help significantly is the separate posts above were
       also labelled, it’s a huge pain having to look at each one to
       find the NtK, for example, and I suspect many people will give
       up.
       #Post#: 117769--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: ElleLamps
       Date: May 4, 2026, 5:15 pm
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       I've noe attached links to documents which should be labeled.
       Exhibit sheet 1
  HTML https://ibb.co/gLkBb2XW
       
       Court order
  HTML https://ibb.co/60N1DVph
       Photo of vehicle at location (4)
  HTML https://ibb.co/gZ8FZvmG
       Photo of vehicle at location (3)
  HTML https://ibb.co/Jj7GfZ8k
       Photo of vehicle at location (2)
  HTML https://ibb.co/ZptDw26Q
       Photo of signage
  HTML https://ibb.co/v6NfJNBN
       Photo of vehicle at location
  HTML https://ibb.co/Ps04Q6v5
  HTML https://ibb.co/5XDT0rjN
       Exhibit sheet 4
  HTML https://ibb.co/rKW48X2z
  HTML https://ibb.co/rG2jMt6z
       Notice to keeper (2)
  HTML https://ibb.co/5WFzrmrB
       Notice to keeper (1)
  HTML https://ibb.co/tPLb4kPs
       Parking signage (2)
  HTML https://ibb.co/Y74LQYVD
       Exhibit sheet 3
  HTML https://ibb.co/dwZtw1Yx
       Parking signage (1)
  HTML https://ibb.co/YBNBtWS0
       Exhibit sheet 2
  HTML https://ibb.co/YTjvk2Dc
       Landowner authority (2)
  HTML https://ibb.co/4wxhdcZ7
       Landowner authority (1)
  HTML https://ibb.co/z0cntZ0
       #Post#: 118012--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: ElleLamps
       Date: May 7, 2026, 5:22 am
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       I am drafting the defence to this today, as it needs to be
       served by Tuesday, so any help with this would be greatly
       appreciated.
       SO, I see that there were two NtK. Does that mean that they
       can't pursue the keeper, becuse a NtD was not served?
       Also, there is not period of parking, but the photos have
       different times on there. Would that not count?
       #Post#: 118014--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 7, 2026, 5:29 am
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       There is no requirement to serve a Notice to Driver, in fact the
       majority of companies don’t.
       A Notice to Keeper is sufficient, and if it complies with the
       legislation it can be used to transfer liability from the
       unknown driver to the registered keeper.
       Providing pictures without explicitly stating a period of
       parking doesn’t comply, for example.
       #Post#: 118018--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: ElleLamps
       Date: May 7, 2026, 6:33 am
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       Great, thanks.
       The PoC specifically state that a NtD was affixed to the car.
       This is factually incorrect. The date they say it was placed on
       the car is also incorrect on the PoC (24 March 2024 when the
       incident was in November 2025). I wonder if the PoC can be
       attaked on that basis, and what other routes there may be to
       avoid keeper liability.
       I've also noticed that the date the landowner authority to
       Parking Control Management was signed (23.04.25)post dates the
       alleged parking infringement date, so I'll argue that they have
       no authority to pursue the case in their name.
       #Post#: 118020--------------------------------------------------
       Re: HELP! Moorside Legal-Court Claim-Defence due
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 7, 2026, 6:54 am
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       Absolutely, their revised particulars of claim being
       significantly incorrect needs to form part of your defence.
       Especially when their initial boilerplate nonsense was thrown
       out by the court, they had an opportunity to get it right and
       didn’t.
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