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Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 8, 2026, 4:58 am
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Like all London councils, Newham have responded to your informal
reps with the usual Fob-Off letter, because they know that >95%
of people then cough-up, not wanting to risk the full PCN
penalty, and, needless to say, thinking that the council know
more about the law than they do. Experience of this forum is
that councils do NOT know the law and some make it up as they go
along judging by their refusals.
So really you have to decide whether to follow the 95% or stand
your ground.
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Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 8, 2026, 5:10 am
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OP, see s 13.15 here:
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c78f895e5274a0ebfec719b/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf
In a way, the council are correct e.g. only for as long as
necessary and loading must be taking place.
As regards their claim regarding the visibility of the process,
it's nonsense. Case law states that the term 'loading' whether
applied to yellow lines or parking places reserved for
'loading', applies to:
Unloading;
Loading;
Collecting;
Delivering.
And that 'delivering' and 'collecting' must of necessity occur
away from the vehicle.
I would carry on if(and only you know this) you were in the
continuous process of delivering a load and then returning to
the vehicle.
#Post#: 118096--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: shah123
Date: May 8, 2026, 5:26 am
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[member=7970]tincombe[/member] yes, they only observed for such
a limited time. Unloading a few bags, trolly to building and up
and back. Takes more than 5-7 minutes
Do I just say it as it is or is there any structure recommended
to present my case to tribunal
#Post#: 118121--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: tincombe
Date: May 8, 2026, 9:41 am
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You're not at tribunal, the next stage is that the registered
keeper receives a Notice to Owner and may make formal reps. Are
you the RK and are your details current?
If so, wait for the NTO and we can draft something which
addresses and destroys their reasoning.
#Post#: 121951--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: shah123
Date: June 16, 2026, 7:25 am
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[member=7970]tincombe[/member] [member=12]Incandescent[/member]
I have uploaded the NTO -
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11h2xdy-fXklHxEaBEUzy4K-e8VyZ7Qlp
appreciate any advice
#Post#: 121972--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: tincombe
Date: June 16, 2026, 9:35 am
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Thanks.
Latest date for submission of reps is ???
..because the link isn't public and the NTO cannot be seen.
#Post#: 122000--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: shah123
Date: June 16, 2026, 12:25 pm
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[member=7970]tincombe[/member] [member=12]Incandescent[/member]
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11h2xdy-fXklHxEaBEUzy4K-e8VyZ7Qlp
Open link
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Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 16, 2026, 1:19 pm
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I get a message This browser version is no longer supported . .
.
:(
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Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: shah123
Date: June 16, 2026, 1:42 pm
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HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/10ATVB_6BVODq6zac39376GlTDYvl9eco/view?usp=drivesdk
#Post#: 122196--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay
DIR By: shah123
Date: June 18, 2026, 6:14 am
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Bump [member=7970]tincombe[/member]
[member=12]Incandescent[/member] @johnu.k.
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