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       Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: shah123
       Date: May 1, 2026, 6:25 am
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       Parked on anthems ways, loading bay, Mon - Sun 8-11am
       I sent evidence of delivery being made, company invoice which
       has been acknowledged
       Newham state that no evidence I was delivering as car viewed for
       7 minutes. It was a few bags of coal which takes ages in the
       buildings to go up. Takes more than a few minutes to go up the
       front door.
       They reference it was not a necessity for me but convenience
       hence I got the ticket.
       Also evidence on PCN portal the images are not time stamped so
       no evidence the CEO watched for any duration.
       Additionally Newham website reads as I can unload and no mention
       of the 5 minutes they claim I need to be seen.
  HTML https://www.newham.gov.uk/parking-permits/parking-rules-newham/3
       I’ll upload their response via google link need to remove
       private data.
       Do I have grounds for strong appeal?
       #Post#: 117539--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: May 1, 2026, 2:13 pm
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       As usual, they're talking complete bo***cks. The 'loading'
       activity encompasses all the necessary activities to complete
       the loading and driving off, so taking the goods to the delivery
       location so part of it. There is no 20 minutes max time in the
       law, they have just made it up.
       Of course stopping to chat and have a cup of tea and a fag is
       not part of loading, needless to say.
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       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: May 1, 2026, 4:37 pm
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       What loading bay, you've posted a permit holders bay?
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       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: shah123
       Date: May 4, 2026, 11:41 am
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       [member=7970]tincombe[/member]
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       you can see the loading bay from this view, looking at anthem
       way
       [member=12]Incandescent[/member] is there any particular wording
       to reference or do I just state the obvious, I was on a
       delivery, I provided the invoice, Newham response was b*ll, do I
       just appeal formally and take this to Tribunal?
       Any directions or steer?
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       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: shah123
       Date: May 5, 2026, 5:18 am
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       This is the response from Newham dated 30 April
       Response to informal appeal, rejection. 14 days to get the
       rejection and then make the formal rep
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       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: shah123
       Date: May 7, 2026, 9:15 am
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       --- Quote from: tincombe link ---
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       > What loading bay, you've posted a permit holders bay?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
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       [member=7970]tincombe[/member] have taken a photo (revisited
       site)
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       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: May 7, 2026, 12:34 pm
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       OP, it's not publicly accessible.
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       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: shah123
       Date: May 7, 2026, 12:46 pm
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       [member=7970]tincombe[/member] changed to anyone with link
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       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: May 7, 2026, 4:47 pm
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       Photo shows the sign for the bay says "Loading Only Mon-Sun 8-11
       am. However the bay may be within a permits-only zone.
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       Re: Newham - 25 - parked in loading bay 
   DIR By: shah123
       Date: May 8, 2026, 4:46 am
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       [member=12]Incandescent[/member] the contravention occurred
       during loading times, challenge is I was loading, evidence
       provided from supplier.
       Newham have stated (see response via link), observed vehicle for
       7 minutes, if no loading seen within 5 mins etc, they deem my
       stopping in the loading bay to unload coal and go up the
       building convenience not necessary, hence PCN stays
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