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NIP / S172 - Ship Lane Bridge - Purfleet
DIR By: DH23
Date: April 30, 2026, 3:12 pm
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Evening everyone, I wonder if anybody is able to help or advise
please?
I've received two speeding tickets that are around two hours
apart on the same stretch of road, going in opposite directions.
The alleged speed both times said the exact same (59 in a 50)
To my knowledge there are no speed signs there, or if there are,
they are new, and a friend who visited there this evening
mentioned that apparently there are no longer cameras there.
It is 'A13 Trunk Road, (Ship Lane Bridge - Purfleet Road
Bridge).
Any help or advice would be fantastic.
Thanks!
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Re: NIP / S172 - Ship Lane Bridge - Purfleet
DIR By: FuzzyDuck
Date: April 30, 2026, 3:25 pm
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Clearly there was a camera, else you wouldn't have ended up
here!
Checking on Google Streetview, I can see several 50MPH repeater
signs on this stretch (as of 2024). So your powers of
observation may not be infallible.
Assuming you haven't done a speed awareness course in th4 last 3
years, one of the offences should see this offer. The other will
should see a £100 and 3 point fixed penalty.
#Post#: 117472--------------------------------------------------
Re: NIP / S172 - Ship Lane Bridge - Purfleet
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: April 30, 2026, 4:25 pm
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--- Quote from: DH23 link ---
>
> To my knowledge there are no speed signs there, or if there
are, they are new, and a friend who visited there this evening
mentioned that apparently there are no longer cameras there.
--- End Quote ---
I also have no direct personal knowledge of there being any
speed limit signs (assuming that is what you meant by "speed
signs") on that road - although in my case, I have almost
certainly never driven on that road either.
What matters is whether or not there were speed limit signs, not
whether you were aware of them. Or more specifically, what
matters is if you can prove that the signage was
defective/inadequate (if it was). The evidential value of you
having no recollection of seeing speed limit signs, is
approximately zero. Also, unless you are suggesting that the
signs that aren't there were erected after the alleged offence,
how new they are is similarly irrelevant.
If there are no fixed cameras, it was presumably mobile
enforcement.
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Re: NIP / S172 - Ship Lane Bridge - Purfleet
DIR By: JRHartley
Date: May 1, 2026, 4:37 am
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--- Quote from: DH23 link ---
>
> To my knowledge there are no speed signs there, or if there
are, they are new, and a friend who visited there this evening
mentioned that apparently there are no longer cameras there.
>
--- End Quote ---
Google Street View from August 2025 shows 50 mph repeaters, a
system of street lighting, and an average speed check zone.
If you didn't see the 50 mph repeaters, you should have assumed
that the street lights indicated a restricted road with a 30 mph
limit.
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Re: NIP / S172 - Ship Lane Bridge - Purfleet
DIR By: roythebus
Date: May 1, 2026, 3:10 pm
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I saw the 50 signs when I drove along that road about 4 weeks
ago. They've been there for many years.
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