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Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: Adam_a2z
Date: December 4, 2023, 8:46 am
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Good Afternoon,
Received a PCN whilst car was parked in driveway with all 4
wheels, as can be seen from the photos.
Contravention code 62 states parked with one or more wheels on
the footway.
This clearly is not the case and I sent an appeal on the basis
that the allege contravention did not occur as all 4 of my
wheels are within private land.
Redbridge Council have rejected my appeal which seems like
standard response, see attached, and not sure if I am missing
something here...
Please advise whether I should either pay or wait for Notice to
Owner and make form Representation.
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: December 4, 2023, 9:07 am
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Looks like you were given the PCN because of the overhang, but
thats not the contravention. You are right the response is
nothing more than a template sent by the teaboy wait for the NTO
we could also do with a GSV link
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Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: Adam_a2z
Date: December 4, 2023, 9:15 am
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Sorry what is GSV short for?
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Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: Princeperch
Date: December 4, 2023, 11:45 am
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Funnily enough I have a similar driveway arrangement and I also
live in Redbridge.
I get the feeling that some areas of Redbridge are more enforced
than others for this. My car has an overhang onto the pavement,
it's probably half as much as yours is though and I've never had
a ticket.
My neighbour leaves his car overhanging by more than yours is
and has never had a ticket.
I think these things are only enforced if there is a specific
complaint made by a neighbour or a member of the public so it
might be worth seeing if you can get hold of any internal
records which would indicate whether someone has made a
complaint about your car or not.
#Post#: 11863--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 4, 2023, 12:31 pm
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The council's problem - it shouldn't be a problem, but it is -
is that for contraventions which relate to orders made by them
they would specify that the whole vehicle is what's in play,
overhang and all.
But this isn't based in an order, it's a statutory prohibition
and the wording couldn't be clearer:
1)Save as provided in subsections (3), (4), (7) and (11), any
person who causes or permits any vehicle to be parked in Greater
London with one or more wheels [F2on or over any part of a road]
other than a carriageway [F3, or on or over a footpath,] shall
be guilty of an offence
The CEO should have known better and the authority should know
better than to spout what is objectively disproved by their own
photos. But this is symptomatic of the poor standards which are
widespread in councils.
Their pensions are good though!
The photos show a badly damaged footway which suggests that you
don't have a crossover although there seems to be a sloping
kerbstone in the background. Whether this might be an issue for
the future, I don't know, but it's not germane to the PCN.
#Post#: 11864--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: mickR
Date: December 4, 2023, 12:31 pm
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--- Quote from: Adam_a2z link ---
>
> Sorry what is GSV short for?
>
--- End Quote ---
Google Street view
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Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: Adam_a2z
Date: December 4, 2023, 12:58 pm
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Not clear from photo but there is a crossover which has been in
place for over 20+ years.
Also been parking this car on the driveway since 2019 and never
received a PCN or even prior.
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Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: December 11, 2023, 8:38 am
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It doesn't look like a contravention to me, however please give
us the PCN number and the number plate please.
In any event you need to wait for the notice to owner.
#Post#: 12198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with all 4 wheels
DIR By: Adam_a2z
Date: December 11, 2023, 9:53 am
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PCN no: AF06675384
VRM: HV65DTO.
Thanks
#Post#: 13082--------------------------------------------------
NOTICE TO OWNER Stage Re: Code 62 - for parking on Driveway with
all 4 wheels
DIR By: Adam_a2z
Date: December 30, 2023, 8:53 am
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NTO received - see attached.
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