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       Re: VCS - LJLA Liverpool Airport - No Stopping (roundabout) Fine
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 22, 2026, 11:42 am
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       Show it to us, please.
       There are two grounds on which you can argue against this.
       1. That the notice to hirer you have now received does not
       comply with PoFA 2012
       (
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4)
       because
       the required notices were not served at the same time as the
       Notice To Hirer.
       2. This is not “relevant land” for the purposes of PoFA 2012.
       In either case, you should not identify the driver.
       Show us the notice rather than just saying it’s “identical”,
       please. The detail is important.
       #Post#: 119538--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VCS - LJLA Liverpool Airport - No Stopping (roundabout) Fine
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: May 22, 2026, 3:00 pm
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       Perhaps a point of style rather than substance, but I'd swap 1
       and 2 round.
       In cases that do not take place on "relevant land", Schedule 4
       of the Protection of Freedoms Act does not apply at all. I'd
       lead with this point. The other point can be made as an "Even if
       this was relevant land, which it isn't, they still wouldn't be
       able to hold the keeper liable" style point.
       It might look at bit confusing to open by disputing compliance
       with legislation that in theory does not apply to this case.
       #Post#: 119546--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VCS - LJLA Liverpool Airport - No Stopping (roundabout) Fine
   DIR By: InterCity125
       Date: May 23, 2026, 1:51 am
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       VCS don't rely on PoFA with these 'Charging Notices' - instead
       they use the assumption that the keeper (or hirer) was the
       driver.
       They'll keep pestering the hirer but will generally lose if it
       ever gets to court.
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       Re: VCS - LJLA Liverpool Airport - No Stopping (roundabout) Fine
   DIR By: springdragon
       Date: May 23, 2026, 5:08 am
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       Thank you everyone, that is very helpful.
       Here's the upload of the revised invoice. If there's any more
       advice that I should consider, I would appreciate it, otherwise
       I will review all the notes and focus on drafting my fist
       response in the next few days.
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/n8C2N5mH/VCS-CN10-NEW1-2026.jpg
  HTML https://ibb.co/93tXkCgF
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/dJM2JwQh/VCS-CN10-NEW2-2026.jpg
  HTML https://ibb.co/BK3ZK5g1
       #Post#: 119559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VCS - LJLA Liverpool Airport - No Stopping (roundabout) Fine
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: May 23, 2026, 5:35 am
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       Please don’t obscure dates and times, although it’s probably not
       important here, per
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
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       Re: VCS - LJLA Liverpool Airport - No Stopping (roundabout) Fine
   DIR By: springdragon
       Date: May 23, 2026, 5:50 am
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       Thanks I have replaced the first image to show the date and
       time.
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