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#Post#: 117258--------------------------------------------------
PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: Fp12345
Date: April 28, 2026, 1:35 pm
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I received a PCN from Redbridge council for the reason
“Parked without payment of parking charge”
However there was no signs that the bay I parked in was a pay
and display bay.
On the other side of the road they had pay and display bays with
a sign but nothing to indicate where I parked was a pay and
display bay. The warden took a picture of the sign on the other
side of the road as evidence
#Post#: 117264--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 28, 2026, 2:27 pm
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Post the PCN, or the PCN number and vehicle VRM.
#Post#: 117266--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: Fp12345
Date: April 28, 2026, 3:17 pm
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Sorry dont know how to upload pic
PCN number :AF14013986
VRN ST14THK
REDBRIDGE COUNCIL
Thank you
#Post#: 117270--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 28, 2026, 4:08 pm
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So it looks from your photos that you were parked here: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/crY2s2DdQGmDrDoe8
and there is a sign on the side that you parked, but the cretins
have put it by the bay adjacent to the gate across the street.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/n8nXCSfHoLQoq5A76
This bay is separated from yours by the double-yellow lines.
This means the bay you parked in is in a separate set of bays
that require their own sign, but as you say, there is no sign.
So you should submit representations stating that the bay you
parked in was one of a group of (Nn), but had no sign with the
bay restrictions. With no sign, this means the bays are
uncontrolled and the PCN is therefore void, so you request it is
cancelled forthwith.
The problem you will have is that Redbridge, being greedy for
your money, will just send you a Fob-Off letter, thus forcing
you to either pay the discount, or wait for the Notice to Owner
and submit a formal representation this time. The discount is
lost at the NtO stage, although it is likely Redbridge would
re-offer it when they reject your formal reps. Really the only
way to get a result is to take them to London Tribunals and risk
the full PCN penalty. Councils know people are reluctant to do
this, so they ruthlessly game the system to "encourage" payment.
So are you the owner with your name and address on the V5C for
the car, and is the V5C address up-to-date ?
#Post#: 117272--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: Fp12345
Date: April 28, 2026, 4:29 pm
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Thank you for your reply
Yes to both of your questions
Im going to give it a go and appeal and see what happens
#Post#: 117274--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 28, 2026, 4:39 pm
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This is hopeless for them if you are sure there was no sign by
that short row of bays. The CEO has taken a pic of the sign
across the road so almost certainly there wasn't.
I've attached the traffic order map that shows two rows of bay
bays separated by double yellow lines on that side.
All you need to say:
The contravention did not occur as my car was in an unrestricted
parking bay. There was no parking sign for this row of bays.
As the PCN has been issued in error I look forward to your early
confirmation of cancellation.
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#Post#: 118057--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: Fp12345
Date: May 7, 2026, 3:15 pm
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Unfortunately as expected the council rejected my objection to
the PCN under the grounds of “sufficient signage at the
location”
Probably will just end up paying it to keep the parasites at bay
#Post#: 118067--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: May 7, 2026, 4:50 pm
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--- Quote from: Fp12345 link ---
>
> Unfortunately as expected the council rejected my objection
to the PCN under the grounds of “sufficient signage at the
location”
>
> Probably will just end up paying it to keep the parasites at
bay
>
--- End Quote ---
And thus join the Mugged Club ! How on earth does paying keep
the parasites at bay ? It merely encourages them to continue
with their unlawful practices.
#Post#: 118091--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: May 8, 2026, 4:38 am
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Post the rejection. Silly to pay for an easily winnable case.
#Post#: 118098--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN -“Pay and display” bays with no signs next to the set of
bays. PCN Received
DIR By: Fp12345
Date: May 8, 2026, 5:57 am
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Sorry I dont know how to attach images but
“””
Thank you for your letter regarding the above Penalty Charge
Notice, your comments are noted. The details of the notice have
been checked, and I conclude that the notice was issued
correctly.
Your challenge has been thoroughly reviewed but has not been
accepted. This decision is based on clear evidence showing that
the vehicle was parked in a pay-for-parking bay without an
active RingGo session at the time the contravention occurred.
Your comments have been noted however as per the officers image
there is sufficient signage at the location advising motorists
of the restriction in place therefore the PCN must stand
On this basis the Penalty Charge must be paid. If paid within
fourteen days from the date on this letter the reduced rate of
£55.00 will be accepted. After this point the full charge of
£110.00 will become due.
If you do not wish to accept this decision you are able to
appeal further to the Councils Parking Appeals section. To do
this you must wait for a Notice to Owner to be sent to the
registered keeper of the vehicle at the full charge of £110.00.
Once this has been received you will be required to follow the
instructions given to make a formal representation.
Should your representation be rejected you will be sent a form
to appeal to the Independent Adjudicator,
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