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#Post#: 11790--------------------------------------------------
52J - Failing to Comply with a Prohibition on certain types of
vehicles (Croydon Council - Dalmally Road)
DIR By: dynamyq
Date: December 3, 2023, 4:09 am
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Hello
My wife receieved a PCN from Croydon Council on 15/11/23, whilst
taking our 18 year old son for a driving practice drivng lesson
ahead of his test in a couple of months.
52J - Failing to Comply with a Prohibition on certain types of
vehicles.
This happened on Dalmally Road at the junction with Blackhorse
Lane in Croydon (Addsicombe).
I appealed against the PCN on 16/11/23 and subsequently have
recieved a Notice of Rejection on 09/11/23
Should this be appealed further (to the Adjudiator) or should
the fine be paid?
I attach the original PCN, my intial appeal and the Rejection
Notice from Croydon Council.
:) All and any advice/guidance gratefully accepted, thank you
for taking the time to read this :)
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#Post#: 11791--------------------------------------------------
Re: 52J - Failing to Comply with a Prohibition on certain types
of vehicles (Croydon Council - Dalmally Road)
DIR By: dynamyq
Date: December 3, 2023, 4:15 am
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VRN is DE19 XEZ
PCN is CR 18682060
Google does not yet have any images of the signs on the road at
Dalmally Road.
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.3846303,-0.0713052,3a,75y,48.5h,83.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPy2ON2JoJADg9VRXA2tFwQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
#Post#: 12073--------------------------------------------------
Re: 52J - Failing to Comply with a Prohibition on certain types
of vehicles (Croydon Council - Dalmally Road)
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 8, 2023, 4:10 am
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Here are your notices
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And here your challenge
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Fs4CY1f/Dalmally-Road-PCN-challenge.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/gvZhW8X
HTML https://i.ibb.co/FY1cg9G/Dalmally-Road-PCN-2.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/pKTNJgC
And your photos
Which direction was the car travelling? Left or right into
Dalmally Road from Blackhorse Lane, or the reverse?
I suspect that the contravention may be proved, but see what the
experts have to say about the 'small print'.
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Re: 52J - Failing to Comply with a Prohibition on certain types
of vehicles (Croydon Council - Dalmally Road)
DIR By: dynamyq
Date: December 8, 2023, 6:23 am
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the car was travelling along Dalmally Road on to Blackhorse
Lane.
#Post#: 12081--------------------------------------------------
Re: 52J - Failing to Comply with a Prohibition on certain types
of vehicles (Croydon Council - Dalmally Road)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 8, 2023, 6:24 am
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THe key bit of info here is the intention to install warning
signs, (but not doing so before the LTN was established,
because this indicates the inadequacy of the signage. If you're
prepared to stand your ground and risk the full PCN penalty,
take them to adjudication. However, a win is not guaranteed, I'm
afraid. Apart from the missing warnings, you look
bang-to-rights, frankly.
#Post#: 12371--------------------------------------------------
Re: 52J - Failing to Comply with a Prohibition on certain types
of vehicles (Croydon Council - Dalmally Road)
DIR By: dynamyq
Date: December 13, 2023, 1:16 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> THe key bit of info here is the intention to install warning
signs, (but not doing so before the LTN was established,
because this indicates the inadequacy of the signage. If you're
prepared to stand your ground and risk the full PCN penalty,
take them to adjudication. However, a win is not guaranteed, I'm
afraid. Apart from the missing warnings, you look
bang-to-rights, frankly.
>
--- End Quote ---
I just came across some other information which might be
relevant. Since the PCN does not has an address where I can
send payment by post, does this not make it invalid or a reason
to contest it?
#Post#: 12374--------------------------------------------------
Re: 52J - Failing to Comply with a Prohibition on certain types
of vehicles (Croydon Council - Dalmally Road)
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: December 13, 2023, 1:48 pm
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Nope. Cannot read most of the images. The PCN does not specify
what vehicles.
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