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#Post#: 117330--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: bagold
Date: April 29, 2026, 7:17 am
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Since I assumed my car was parked correctly we took our time and
talked to the residents of the hostel so we did not complete in
20 minutes. So perhaps this argument may not be valid.
#Post#: 117339--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: tincombe
Date: April 29, 2026, 8:34 am
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I admire your honesty, but why would you want to tell them
anyway?
In any event, you don't actually know the relevance of any max.
period because in effect your time in the bay was in 2 distinct
parts: what happened prior to the PCN contravention time and
what happened afterwards.
IMO, only what happened before would be relevant and I doubt you
know precisely how long you'd been parked at that time.
#Post#: 117340--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: bagold
Date: April 29, 2026, 8:40 am
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Thank you. But should I add to my statement that I posted today
at 6:49?
#Post#: 117346--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: tincombe
Date: April 29, 2026, 9:54 am
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As stamfordman has posted Westminster's policy, I suggest you
make this point clear in your draft because you are claiming
this exemption.
Perhaps put a heading - PCN ******; Challenge on the grounds of
contravention did not occur.
I am challenging on these grounds because at the time of the
contravention I was engaged in an exempt activity, namely
delivering.
In detail....As the ......
and replace: It has been mentioned to me that delivering might
actually be allowed in these spaces but I wouldn't know. If it
is, I have attached evidence of my activity (donation form
signed by my wife xxxx xxxx) and hope this is sufficient for you
to cancel the PCN. Alternatively, if delivering is not allowed I
would still ask you to exercise discretion."
With..PCN to me because they were not aware that I was
delivering which is an exempt activity. I have attached proof
that I was delivering to these representations and look forward
to your confirmation that the PCN has been cancelled.
Or similar..
#Post#: 117353--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: bagold
Date: April 29, 2026, 11:27 am
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I have received the donation form from the charity. We got this
signed as we entered at 5:35. PCN issued at 6:33pm. As I said I
was relaxed as I thought the car was parked legally. Given these
circumstances isn't the first version still more appropriate?
#Post#: 117359--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: catnip
Date: April 29, 2026, 12:01 pm
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Just a minor point but worth correcting in your draft text, I
think that you may have missed the word 'delivering':
"On the day of the PCN I was actually delivering the food
packages"
#Post#: 117400--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 30, 2026, 6:36 am
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This is best approach IMO.
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Challenge on the grounds of contravention did not occur.
I am challenging the PCN because I was engaged in the exempt
activity of unloading, namely delivering multiple packages to
the Marylebone Project at 1-5 Cosway Street, which houses this
women’s hostel and homelessness service.
To supplement the project's work, families from north London
prepare approximately 400 food packages every 6 weeks. Given
that my driving skills exceed those of my cooking, I'm
designated to deliver these loads which I do regularly, almost
invariably on a Saturday.
Until the day in question, I have parked on a yellow line
without issue.
On the day of the PCN I delivered the food packages plus bags of
clothes donated by women from north London but could not find a
space close by other than in the parking place which I
mistakenly thought was subject to the same restrictions as the
yellow lines.
I probably made 10 trips to/from the hostel and presumably it
was during one of these that the CEO issued the PCN.
I understand that such unloading falls under exempt activity,
and enclose a note from the hostel confirming the delivery.
I trust this will be accepted by you and look forward to early
confirmation of cancellation of the PCN.
#Post#: 117423--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: bagold
Date: April 30, 2026, 8:39 am
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Got it. Thank you.
#Post#: 117425--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 30, 2026, 8:41 am
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Make sure the note doesn't undermine you though by saying you
stopped longer than making the deliveries.
#Post#: 117439--------------------------------------------------
Re: City of Westminster - Code 12r Parked in Residents Permit
Bay - Query about permitted times
DIR By: tincombe
Date: April 30, 2026, 9:24 am
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+1.
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