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       #Post#: 11788--------------------------------------------------
       Kingston 53J entering pedestrian zone Alexandra Road Junction of
       Park Road
   DIR By: namesarehard
       Date: December 3, 2023, 3:47 am
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       I'm going back to look at this in person tomorrow as I'm
       interested to see what point you can see these signs when
       turning as, and perhaps I'm a bad driver, but I'm not sure I
       could mentally process those signs on a good day. As it happens
       I was on my way to visit my terminally ill father who passed
       that night and only turned up this road as remembered gas works
       ahead.
       Is there any argument that they're not facing the oncoming
       traffic please? Seems a strange choice as it's not a crossroads.
       A stretch... but the signs are partially obscured in their
       evidence?
       Only looking at previous cases (and now streetview) there's
       apparantly a previous red sign indicating this but quite
       possible obscured by trafffic and (in previous cases/ streetview
       but I'll check tomorrow) foliage.
       PCNS and video -
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/5dsgkYD
       Streetview
  HTML https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4173905,-0....i8192?entry=ttu
       I can see a recent appeal (2230417715 on
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       but there's no detail (council
       didn't contest), is there any way to find the details of that
       please?
       If this is just a learning experience then fair enough, just I
       can ill afford it at the moment.
       Many thanks in advance
       #Post#: 11859--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kingston 53J entering pedestrian zone Alexandra Road
       Junction of Park Road
   DIR By: namesarehard
       Date: December 4, 2023, 10:54 am
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       Also, I went to look at the signs yesterday and have uploaded
       more images at
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/dc6aOS3
       The video cuts off just before the junction as I was
       concentrating on the sign more at that time but seems reasonable
       to me that a bus could obscure the red warning sign as it's
       within the stop and those signs are hard to see, considering
       what else is going on on that road.
       Also some responses back over at
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       #Post#: 11869--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kingston 53J entering pedestrian zone Alexandra Road
       Junction of Park Road
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: December 4, 2023, 1:05 pm
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       Not possible to ascertain what the other appeal details were.
       RH sign is obscured in part by foliage.
       #Post#: 11901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kingston 53J entering pedestrian zone Alexandra Road
       Junction of Park Road
   DIR By: concoj
       Date: December 5, 2023, 5:04 am
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       hi, I also received a 53J
       waht should I do? please help
       #Post#: 11902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Kingston 53J entering pedestrian zone Alexandra Road
       Junction of Park Road
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: December 5, 2023, 5:14 am
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       --- Quote from: concoj link ---
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       > hi, I also received a 53J
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       > waht should I do? please help
       >
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