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       #Post#: 117048--------------------------------------------------
       Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London Rainham
   DIR By: CloverOverDover
       Date: April 26, 2026, 9:19 am
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       Hi gang,
       Another private Parking Charge Notice. As a family we dropped
       into the local Table Table venue after a family day out. There
       is signage about the carpark which the driver hadn't notice
       because they had been to the venue before (albeit years ago).
       There is a terminal within the entrance of the restaurant, but
       the driver had been distracted by a joking quip by the staff on
       our entrance. The place was completely empty and when we asked
       for a table, the staff frowned and asked if we had made a
       reservation. Not blaming them for deliberately distracting the
       driver but consequently we all completely missed the terminal.
       There were 2 cars in our party and both have received a parking
       charged notice.
       My plan is to just send proof that I was a patron of the venue
       by evidencing the debit from my account, but I wondered if there
       was a procedural or admin matter that may make the charge
       nulled. Particularly on page 3 where the 3rd paragraph has
       details about contesting the Parking Charge is obscured by a
       random QR-type code.
       Any advice appreciated as always. Images and signage below.
       Thanks.
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       #Post#: 117052--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: April 26, 2026, 12:04 pm
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       Plan a should be to ask Premier Inn to cancel this - you may
       need to go above the local management however. Plan B appeal to
       Horizon - as keeper only, refer only to the driver in the 3rd
       person - on the basis of being a customer. When they reject it,
       you can appeal to POPLA - it looks like there are various points
       where compliance with POFA is lacking. What date did you receive
       the notice?
       #Post#: 117054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: CloverOverDover
       Date: April 26, 2026, 12:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: RichardW link ---
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       > What date did you receive the notice?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Only received the notice on Thursday 23rd April. This is why I
       feel rushed about it. I worked on Friday and yesterday so my
       earliest opportunity to get images of the signage was today.
       For context, the 3rd was Good Friday with the 6th being Bank
       Holiday Monday. The earliest they could have processed it was
       7th, but it still took a fortnight to get to us.
       #Post#: 117056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: April 26, 2026, 1:50 pm
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       For transfer of liability it needs to get to you within 14 days,
       so it was out of time. If PI don't play ball and you appeal to
       Horizon you can include this in your appeal and ask them to
       provide proof they posted it in the required time frame.
       #Post#: 117057--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: CloverOverDover
       Date: April 26, 2026, 2:03 pm
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       --- Quote from: RichardW link ---
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       > For transfer of liability it needs to get to you within 14
       days, so it was out of time. If PI don't play ball and you
       appeal to Horizon you can include this in your appeal and ask
       them to provide proof they posted it in the required time frame.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for this, Richard. I was under the impression that it
       only needs to issued within 14 days of the incident, and that it
       is deemed to have been received the next working day..?
       The envelopes are no longer date stamped.
       #Post#: 117068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: April 27, 2026, 1:57 am
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       POFA requires that the notice be delivered within 14 days
       (starting from the day after the contravention), and which is
       deemed to be 2nd Working day after posting unless proved
       otherwise.  They are supposed to keep records of when the notice
       is actually posted (not when they dreamt it up, or batched it to
       a 3rd party posting company).  I would just state that you only
       received it on 23rd, 3 weeks after the event, and it is
       therefore out of time.
       #Post#: 117157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: CloverOverDover
       Date: April 27, 2026, 3:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: CloverOverDover link ---
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       > [quote author=RichardW link=topic=10647.msg117056#msg117056
       date=1777229404]
       > For transfer of liability it needs to get to you within 14
       days, so it was out of time. If PI don't play ball and you
       appeal to Horizon you can include this in your appeal and ask
       them to provide proof they posted it in the required time frame.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for this, Richard. I was under the impression that it
       only needs to issued within 14 days of the incident, and that it
       is deemed to have been received the next working day..?
       The envelopes are no longer date stamped.
       [/quote]
       Well typically, Premier Inn/Table Table/Whitbread has no
       interest in cancelling the charge and have told me (verbally) to
       appeal to Horizon with proof of debit from a bank statement.
       I plan to supply a bank statement proving patronage at the site
       and I'll cite that the notice only arrived on the 23rd. I'll
       also cite the strangely obscured guidance notice on page 3. What
       other potential non-compliances of POFA are on the PCN so I can
       be as compelling as possible in the first instance? Thanks.
       #Post#: 117184--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: April 28, 2026, 2:09 am
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       See para 9 of Sched 4 of POFA which describes the requirements:
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       At least the invitation to pay or name the driver, and the
       warning about recover from RK, is missing.
       #Post#: 117203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: CloverOverDover
       Date: April 28, 2026, 5:40 am
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       Ok, your thoughts please on this first draft for a
       representation:
       "Dear Sirs,
       I write to make representation in regard to Parking Charge
       Number: HP4906820 received to my registered address in an
       envelope without a date stamp on 23rd April 2026.
       The driver of the vehicle in question was a customer in my party
       at the Table Table restaurant venue - Willow Farm for an Easter
       Lunch. The driver had every intention to register the vehicle
       but had been distracted by some jovial welcome comments made by
       the staff and accidentally neglected to register the vehicle on
       the terminal within the entrance of the restaurant.
       The lead of our party can prove that we, as a party, were
       customers at the Table Table and they offer a screenshot (from
       part of their bank statement) of payment made to Table Table of
       £67.40 which was subsequently processed by the banks on the 7th
       April 2026 following the bank holiday.
       I am disappointed to receive the Parking Charge Notice 19 days
       after the alleged breach and a full 7 days after the alleged
       Parking Charge Issue Date of the 16th April 2026.
       I also find it unfair that the time limited fee of £25 is only
       applicable if received within 14 days of the issue date, when
       the notification has already taken 7 days to arrive.
       On further review of your letter, there are several breeches to
       the Protections of Freedom Act 2012 (POFA). Most notably,
       Paragraph 9 of Schedule 4 of POFA stipulates that:
       “(5) The relevant period for the purposes of sub-paragraph (4)
       is the period of 14 days beginning with the day after that on
       which the specified period of parking ended.
       (6) A notice sent by post is to be presumed, unless the contrary
       is proved, to have been delivered (and so “given” for the
       purposes of sub-paragraph (4)) on the second working day after
       the day on which it is posted; and for this purpose “working
       day” means any day other than a Saturday, Sunday or a public
       holiday in England and Wales.”
       I therefore request that you either cancel the charge with
       immediate effect or supply evidence that the Parking Charge
       Notification letter was posted in a timely manner in compliance
       with sub-paragraphs 5 and 6 of paragraph 9 within Schedule 4 of
       the POFA.
       I look forward to hearing from you in due course."[/br]
       #Post#: 117206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parking Charge - Horizon Parking - Premier Inn London
       Rainham
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: April 28, 2026, 5:51 am
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       Breeches are clothes, I think you mean breaches.
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