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PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did not
stay)
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: April 25, 2026, 8:45 am
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Good afternoon everyone,
The registered keeper of the vehicle received Link
HTML https://photos.app.goo.gl/CieCRpEkYhGFWT657
PCN saying the
vehicle failed to pay for the duration of stay. They provide
images of the vehicle and say the vehicle arrived at 16:03 on
7/4/26 and left at 14:12 on 8/4/26.
The vehicle attended and left the site on the 7th and again on
the 8th. Each time not staying for more than 30 minutes. They
have merged the two and claimed the vehicle stayed till the
following day.
Please help.
#Post#: 116985--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 25, 2026, 8:48 am
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Please read and act on
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
#Post#: 116989--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: April 25, 2026, 9:31 am
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Hi,
I have, but I still can't understand what was wrong with the
post?
#Post#: 116992--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 25, 2026, 9:38 am
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--- Quote from: DontStandForNonsense link ---
>
> Hi,
>
> I have, but I still can't understand what was wrong with the
post?
>
--- End Quote ---
Show us the things you are talking about!
But I note you have posted the PCN, I missed this originally,
sorry.
It looks like a typical “double dip” so you need to tell them
accordingly, ie their equipment is faulty and their claim is
wrong and you won’t be paying.
Bottom line is that if they insist on pursuing you we will
advise at each stage, if they don’t see sense.
Apologies, there are too many people here who don’t post
relevant information in the way that you did.
#Post#: 116995--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: April 25, 2026, 9:55 am
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--- Quote from: jfollows link ---
>
> [quote author=DontStandForNonsense
link=topic=10640.msg116989#msg116989 date=1777127496]
> Hi,
>
> I have, but I still can't understand what was wrong with the
post?
>
--- End Quote ---
Show us the things you are talking about!
But I note you have posted the PCN, I missed this originally,
sorry.
It looks like a typical “double dip” so you need to tell them
accordingly, ie their equipment is faulty and their claim is
wrong and you won’t be paying.
Bottom line is that if they insist on pursuing you we will
advise at each stage, if they don’t see sense.
Apologies, there are too many people here who don’t post
relevant information in the way that you did.
[/quote]
Thank you. I hadn't heard of this double dip term before but it
describes the scenario I think :)
#Post#: 116998--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 25, 2026, 10:06 am
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Search the forum for lots of examples.
It also proves that their supposed “checks” before issuing
notices are lies, otherwise they wouldn’t happen.
#Post#: 116999--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: April 25, 2026, 10:30 am
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Agree.
#Post#: 117001--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: RichardW
Date: April 25, 2026, 11:28 am
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Make sure not to identify the driver on any appeal, your wording
of 'tge vehicle' is good as it doesn't even imply the same
driver on each day. If you could figure out what time the
vehicle left on 7th and arrived on 8th you could include this.
#Post#: 117185--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: DontStandForNonsense
Date: April 28, 2026, 2:52 am
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--- Quote from: jfollows link ---
>
> Search the forum for lots of examples.
>
> It also proves that their supposed “checks” before issuing
notices are lies, otherwise they wouldn’t happen.
>
--- End Quote ---
Question,
What checks and balances exist to determ companies from doing
this?
Imagine how many people do they smack with this nasty tactic. If
there's no oversight on this, why wouldn't they just go on doing
it. I'm not convinced it is a system or equipment error. No
doubt many people just pay it because they can't remember, can't
be bothered or don't have the time to appeal them.
They should be investigated and if found to have many such
tickets, they should be made to pay it all back with interest
and fines.
#Post#: 117190--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN by Gemini - Failure to pay for duration of stay (But did
not stay)
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 28, 2026, 3:33 am
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Self-regulation and non-compliance with the code of practice
HTML https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector%20Code%20Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130426-2.pdf
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> NOTE 1: The manual quality control check for remote ANPR and
CCTV systems is particularly important for detecting issues such
as “double dipping”, where image camera systems might have
failed to accurately record each instance when a vehicle enters
and leaves controlled land, and for checking images that might
have been taken other than by a trained parking attendant (see
Clause 15). The manual check might also reveal where
“tailgating” – vehicles passing a camera close together – is a
problem, suggesting relocation of the camera might be necessary.
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They don’t care, they only want your money and they know that
lots of people just give it to them.
They could easily implement a system checking for three
entry/exit records for the same vehicle, because I bet in your
case your first exit was missed and they attached your second
exit to the first entry. But that’s would mean less ££ for them.
You can complain to the IPC, but that’s just an exercise in
futility.
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