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Parking sign emblem 6cm too small
By: John U.K. Date: December 2, 2023, 7:23 am
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Somehow I think it may fail at tribunal, despite the optimism of
Mr.Burton and the reporters - still
HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/01/parking-fine-revoked-as-driver-proves-signs-too-small/
[font=Times New Roman]Driver wins parking fine battle because
signs were 6cm too small[/font]
County court backs appeal after man who was issued with a
penalty charge in Bury measures the size of blue ‘P’ notice
By Telegraph Reporters 1 December 2023 • 6:15pm
Parking signs where the blue ‘P’ box is less than 20cm cannot be
enforced, a driver has successfully argued.
Chris Burton, 42, found that several blue ‘P’ parking notices in
Bury, Greater Manchester, were short of this 20cm (about 8in)
requirement.
Mr Burton used a tape measure to investigate the size of the
signs after being hit with a £60 fine while dropping off his
father for a hospital appointment. A sign marking the entrance
to a permit parking area must bear a blue ‘P’ symbol that is
200mm in height, with a legend below of 40mm, according to The
Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016.
A county court judgment ruled that the order for Mr Burton to
pay his parking ticket should be revoked after he submitted
pages of evidence, including the size of the signs which
indicated that the area was residents’ parking only.
Mr Burton was issued with a parking ticket in May, when he
claimed there were no available parking spaces at the hospital
and so found a space for his Volkswagen Sharan on a nearby road.
However, when he returned to the car, he discovered a penalty
charge notice (PCN) on his windscreen.
He appealed the ticket online and said it was rejected within
minutes, so he appealed again in June and said he heard nothing
back for months.
However, in September he received a letter from the council
saying that it was taking the case to Northampton county court
to recover costs.
Mr Burton had initially complained that the two residents-only
parking signs in the area had either been covered up by a bush
or turned around, but he later decided to measure the signs and
sent all his evidence to the court.
Mr Burton said: “UK law says signs have to be 20cm in size, but
when I checked the signs that were there, they were only 14cm.”
The judgment said: “It is ordered that the order for recovery of
unpaid penalty charge be revoked.”
A spokesman for Bury council said that the sizing issue only
affected “a tiny number” of signs located at residents-only
parking zones and “not to parking signs in general across the
borough”.
Mr Burton said that the matter has since been taken to tribunal,
with Bury council not yet aware of its outcome.
It is understood that the PCN is still active until that ruling
is published, however if the tribunal rules in Mr Burton’s
favour, it will be cancelled.
The council spokesman said: “Mr Burton was issued with a PCN for
parking without a permit in a residents-only parking zone near
Fairfield hospital.
“His initial appeal was rejected, and he was informed that he
could either pay the PCN or appeal to the independent parking
tribunal in Manchester.
“If he did appeal to the adjudicator [tribunal], we have not
been informed of the outcome.
“As far as the size of parking signs is concerned – we believe
this issue relates to a tiny number of signs located at
residents-only parking zones, not to parking signs in general
across the borough.
“We are satisfied that the overwhelming number of signs across
Bury are fully in accordance with national regulations, and any
which are not will be rectified.”
#Post#: 13472--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking sign emblem 6cm too small
By: DancingDad Date: January 8, 2024, 10:21 am
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Not sure that I have ever seen an article with so many errors!
#Post#: 17812--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking sign emblem 6cm too small
By: The Rookie Date: March 20, 2024, 7:53 am
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Indeed, 'wins' is a bit premature and it's only the second word,
it then goes from bad to worse.
#Post#: 17872--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking sign emblem 6cm too small
By: ivanleo Date: March 20, 2024, 3:32 pm
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[quote author=The Rookie link=topic=1063.msg17812#msg17812
date=1710939229]
Indeed, 'wins' is a bit premature and it's only the second word,
it then goes from bad to worse.
[/quote]
Indeed, I've made an editorial complaint as the headline is
basically clickbait.
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