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#Post#: 120551--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: Hardwired7223
Date: June 3, 2026, 6:14 am
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Thanks. I’ve added that in and sent it in with a copy of the
parking receipt. I’ll come back here when I have their decision.
#Post#: 120726--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: Hardwired7223
Date: June 4, 2026, 10:14 am
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The council have uploaded their evidence. Is there any benefit
to choosing to have a telephone hearing rather than telling the
adjudicator to make the decision based on what they see and
infer from the evidence?
#Post#: 120732--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 4, 2026, 11:18 am
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--- Quote from: Hardwired7223 link ---
>
> The council have uploaded their evidence. Is there any benefit
to choosing to have a telephone hearing rather than telling the
adjudicator to make the decision based on what they see and
infer from the evidence?
>
--- End Quote ---
Post up from the Evidence Pack the list of contents and the 2-3
page summary of why the Council believe your appeal should be
dismissed.
Always opt for personal (= video-link or telephone) hearing
rather than on papers.
It gives you the chance to answer any questions the Adjudicator
might have, to raise any points you may feel have been
overlooked, and to come across as a credible witness.
#Post#: 120753--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: Hardwired7223
Date: June 4, 2026, 1:16 pm
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Noted on the hearing.
The list of evidence is below:
1. Supporting Evidence (P&D, Receipt, Permit) - Added by
Appellant at 11:51 on 03/06/2026[BR]
2. Penalty Charge Notice - Added by Appellant at 11:52 on
03/06/2026[BR]
3. Case Status Report/System Audit/Progression History -
Confirmed by Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
4. Penalty Charge Notice - Confirmed by Authority Manager at
14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
5. Informal Challenge - Confirmed by Authority Manager at 14:47
on 04/06/2026[BR]
6. Informal Challenge - Confirmed by Authority Manager at 14:47
on 04/06/2026[BR]
7. Informal Challenge Rejection - Confirmed by Authority Manager
at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
8. Additional Correspondence (letters/emails) - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
9. Additional Correspondence (letters/emails) - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
10. Additional Correspondence (letters/emails) - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
11. Notice to Owner - Confirmed by Authority Manager at 14:47 on
04/06/2026[BR]
12. Formal Representation - Confirmed by Authority Manager at
14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
13. Formal Representation - Confirmed by Authority Manager at
14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
14. Notice of Rejection of Representation - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
15. Photographs of car parked - Confirmed by Authority Manager
at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
16. Photographs of signage at pay station - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
17. Photographs of keyboard at paystation - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
18. Supporting Evidence (P&D, Receipt, Permit) - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
19. TRO/Schedule (add references in description) - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
20. TRO/Schedule (add references in description) - Confirmed by
Authority Manager at 14:47 on 04/06/2026[BR]
The summary of the Council's explanation for dismissing the
appeal:[BR][BR]
"The Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO) recorded that the vehicle
was parked in a pay-on-arrival car park without payment for a
parking session being made.[BR]
The information on the car park signage states that ‘A parking
session must be purchased at the time of parking’ and a penalty
charge notice will be issue for being ‘Parked without payment of
the parking charge’ (Evidence 15-16).[BR]
The CEO carried out their observations and checked for a parking
payment on their handheld computer, however a parking session
for vehicle registration FL15NFO could not be found (Evidence
3).[BR]
The Council submits that the vehicle registration was entered as
FL15NF0 (zero) and not FL15NFO:[BR]
The Council submits that upon purchasing parking time motorists
are required to accurately enter the full vehicle registration
by using the correct letters/numbers on the keypad (Evidence
17).[BR]
A previous Penalty Charge Notice was cancelled when the vehicle
registration was incorrectly entered and the appellant was
advised that further Penalty Charge Notices issued for the same
reason may not be cancelled (Evidence 21).[BR]
The Council is satisfied that the contravention occurred and the
registered keeper is liable for the outstanding charge."
#Post#: 121430--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: Hardwired7223
Date: June 11, 2026, 4:53 am
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I've chosen the Video Call Hearing option as advised.[BR]
I'm not sure if there's much more to this besides what seems
clear; the main points I'll be choosing to use will be that a 0
can be used in place of a O as per in normal language and also
that if there's a 0 on the keypad, it can be perceived as
tripping users up, that they should not fetter discretion and
finally that no loss by the mistake.
#Post#: 121438--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 11, 2026, 5:54 am
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You can also say the font on car numberplates is exactly the
same for zero and letter O.
#Post#: 121439--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: Hardwired7223
Date: June 11, 2026, 5:56 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> You can also say the font on car numberplates is exactly the
same for zero and letter O.
>
--- End Quote ---
Agreed! I'll have this post/crib notes open to prompt me during
the call if necessary.
#Post#: 121457--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 11, 2026, 8:20 am
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The font for numberplates has no separate "0" (zero), the "O" is
used instead. see here: -
HTML https://aplates.co.uk/what-font-is-used-on-uk-number-plates/
YU'll see that the same character "O" is used for both numeric
and alpha
#Post#: 121460--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: June 11, 2026, 8:35 am
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The legislation doesn't indeed include zero so that the letter O
is used as a zero really shouldn't be allowed.
The number 1 is included but not the letter I and the letter is
not used presumably because of confusion but of course these two
are also still confused...
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/schedule/4
#Post#: 121465--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester Council, PCN code 73, Wrong Registration Entered
(0/O) in Arndale Car Park
DIR By: tincombe
Date: June 11, 2026, 8:50 am
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The payment was successful, and I have attached a photo of the
Visa payment receipt for the transaction that was issued by the
machine at the time
Where is this pl?
The Council submits that upon purchasing parking time motorists
are required to accurately enter the full vehicle registration
by using the correct letters/numbers on the keypad (Evidence
17).
17. Photographs of keyboard at paystation
??
The requirement to enter the VRM must be in the Order. If it
isn't and all it requires is payment, then this isn't at issue
and your appeal must be allowed.
Where are items 19 and 20 pl?
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