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Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: ashthemash
Date: April 22, 2026, 12:41 am
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I have received a PCN from Havering Council for 52M.
It was late at night 23:23 and I was driving to obtain an out of
hours prescription from a doctor for my son. I did not see any
signs. There appear some road works going on. There are no signs
shown on the PCN video but appreciate that in itself wont be
enough.
Here is the PCN:
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/luQoDRc
#Post#: 116668--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: April 22, 2026, 5:44 am
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I will be back later this afternoon. I have one myself here!
Take a look at their website too please.
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Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 22, 2026, 6:45 am
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This is a very well known and notorious location, and there have
been successful appeals on signage inadequacy. The video shows
you passing no signs at all.
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Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: ashthemash
Date: April 22, 2026, 11:40 am
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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> I will be back later this afternoon. I have one myself here!
Take a look at their website too please.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you, I will wait for your response. I think todays is the
last day of the 14 day period.
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Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: ashthemash
Date: April 22, 2026, 11:51 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> This is a very well known and notorious location, and there
have been successful appeals on signage inadequacy. The video
shows you passing no signs at all.
>
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Thanks. Should i reply on the absence of signs as the sole basis
or should I add any additional grounds?
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Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: April 22, 2026, 2:03 pm
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I will do a detailed draft later.
#Post#: 117549--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 1, 2026, 3:33 pm
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Before you do anything screenshot their grounds page including
the caveat re ticking the box and making a false representation.
Dear Havering
The PCN does not state the grounds on which you allege this PCN
is payable by its use of "certain vehicles". Furthermore, when
entering your website I am faced with no signage whatsoever to
indicate what I am supposed to have done wrong.
Finally, there is one wrong ground on the PCN which does not
belong to the 2003 legislation.
In light of the above please cancel the PCN.
:D
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Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: May 2, 2026, 3:56 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> Before you do anything screenshot their grounds page including
the caveat re ticking the box and making a false representation.
>
> Dear Havering
>
> The PCN does not state the grounds on which you allege this
PCN is payable by its use of "certain vehicles". Furthermore,
when entering your website I am faced with no signage whatsoever
to indicate what I am supposed to have done wrong.
>
> Finally, there is one wrong ground on the PCN which does not
belong to the 2003 legislation.
>
> In light of the above please cancel the PCN.
>
> :D
>
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See also these cases:
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WSBVHktf6Yu3twJANacn8mmlTQKt1-t_/view
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FwQv1qYRnzDXaPWyJvIjAEIgiWsOBzZ1/view
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Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: ashthemash
Date: June 20, 2026, 6:21 pm
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Thanks Phillip
I had to send the representation in before your response came
in, because of the tight deadline. They rejected the
representation on 14th May. I send an appeal to the London
Tribunal on 14th June which has been accepted and due to he
heard on 15th December 2026 at 16:00.
However, in the meantime I have received a charge certificate
from Havering Council dated 12th June. What do I need to do to
get the charge certificate cancelled?
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Re: Hit with a PCN in the middle of the night. PCN 52M Bus gate
Havering South Street/Eastern St RM1
DIR By: MrChips
Date: June 21, 2026, 2:52 am
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Seems you're one of many!
HTML https://lbbspending.blogspot.com/2026/06/hapless-havering-council.html?m=1
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