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       #Post#: 116623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Burton Road Measham The Most luceratve Zapper in the game. 
       Camera Collaboration query
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: April 21, 2026, 1:56 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mozzer1975 link ---
       > i know the ranges of Course v Points. I fully read the obvious
       " READ THIS FIRST"   it was the same on PiPEPO that wasn't my
       reason of posting.
       >
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       My bad, I skimmed your OP and presumably read your "probably" as
       a question, rather than an "all things being equal".
       --- Quote from: Mozzer1975 link ---
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       > Maybe the poster could elaborate on his point that
       collaboration certificates are not legally required then?
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       However...
       He could. He appears not to have done so. You asked for free
       legal advice. He gave you accurate legal advice. He appears to
       be acting under the misapprehension that the purpose of the
       forum is to provide accurate and meaningful advice in response
       to the questions asked, rather than to justify his reasoning, or
       engage in some kind of debate either to enable him to persuade
       you that he is correct or enable you the opportunity to show him
       that he is correct. Leave it with me, I'll be having words with
       him.
       #Post#: 116630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Burton Road Measham The Most luceratve Zapper in the game. 
       Camera Collaboration query
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: April 21, 2026, 4:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: Mozzer1975 link ---
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       > So what's the point in providing Collaboration Certs then?
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       So that the prosecution can adduce evidence without having to
       produce a witness, thus saving time and expense. The absence of
       a certificate just means a witness would need to testify that
       the camera was working, and unless you could undermine the
       witness's evidence you'd be convicted, certificate or no
       certificate.
       The fact that people would like certificates to be legally
       required is a bit like life after death: it's a nice idea, it
       would make many of us very happy if it were true, but the fact
       that we would like it to be true does not make it so.
       If you want a defence, you'll have to find something else to
       argue.
       #Post#: 116647--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Burton Road Measham The Most luceratve Zapper in the game. 
       Camera Collaboration query
   DIR By: Mozzer1975
       Date: April 22, 2026, 3:52 am
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       Thanks all for your comments all taken onboard.  Back in the day
       there was a NIP wizard to upload,  to weed out obvious floors,
       Vague Locust was it? date/timing ranges etc.   I spotted what i
       thought was a anomaly with Camera collab information, got
       excited and asked on here for opinions.  Ill incriminate myself
       Forthwith.... Cheers.
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