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       #Post#: 116509--------------------------------------------------
       Speeding NIP - wrong location
   DIR By: mnyaaas
       Date: April 20, 2026, 4:04 pm
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       Hi All,
       firstly thanks for clicking and taking time to look at this. I
       am trying to help my mum who is freaking out as she got a
       speeding ticket. Unfortunately i do not have the document with
       me to post, but...
       She was captured by a traffic officer with a mobile speed gun
       and received a NIP in the post. I have checked the calibration
       and everything on the ticket looks fine, but there is one thing
       i am questioning.
       The location reads 'Dalkeith Grove between junctions of Merrion
       Avenue and Pangbourne Drive HA7'
       I have a link here
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/QG5hisoWEQ2qp8jX9
       my two questions/issues are:
       1) The location being between the Merrion Avenue and Pangbourne
       Drive should be slightly more specific as there is another
       junction in between with Dovercourt Gardens.
       2) There is no junction of Merrion Avenue on Dalkeith Grove as
       that junction, Dalkeith Grove actually become Du cros Drive, so
       the address is technically incorrect.
       Are the above issues above enough to get the ticket quashed?
       Many Thanks
       
       #Post#: 116511--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding NIP - wrong location
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: April 20, 2026, 4:12 pm
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       No
       #Post#: 116522--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding NIP - wrong location
   DIR By: The Slithy Tove
       Date: April 21, 2026, 2:18 am
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       According to GSV, the road does transition between a 20 and a 30
       limit between the two endpoints described. What was the alleged
       speed and limit?
       Regardless of that, your mum must respond to the NIP. And if not
       significantly over the limit, there's no need to stress. A
       course or even 3 points and a fine are not a big deal in the
       grand scheme of things (assuming no accumulated points thus
       far).
       #Post#: 116530--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Speeding NIP - wrong location
   DIR By: JustLoveCars
       Date: April 21, 2026, 4:36 am
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       --- Quote from: mnyaaas link ---
       >
       > 1) The location being between the Merrion Avenue and
       Pangbourne Drive should be slightly more specific as there is
       another junction in between with Dovercourt Gardens.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, there is a junction along that road with Dovercourt Gardens
       but there is no requirement to reference it.  The start and end
       point are roughly 700m apart - the location is merely directory
       and that is not vague enough to prevent the driver recalling
       whether they were there (or not).  It would take just over 1
       minute (or perhaps less depending on how much over the limit) to
       traverse it...
       --- Quote from: mnyaaas link ---
       >
       > 2) There is no junction of Merrion Avenue on Dalkeith Grove as
       that junction, Dalkeith Grove actually become Du cros Drive, so
       the address is technically incorrect.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It does appear Dalkeith Grove ends roughly 60m before the
       junction with Merrion Avenue (Indeed becoming Du Cros Drive) but
       see the answer above.  Arguing the driver was disadvantaged by
       such a small technicality is optimistic.
       --- Quote from: mnyaaas link ---
       >
       > Are the above issues above enough to get the ticket quashed?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       As Andy summarised, No.
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       Re: Speeding NIP - wrong location
   DIR By: mnyaaas
       Date: May 17, 2026, 3:52 am
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       Hi All, apologies for delay in responding, i got caught up in
       hospital... thank you all for taking time to respond,  what an
       awsome group here. I think she will just take the speed
       awareness course and move on.
       I was looking for the angle but there wasn't one. Thanking you
       all
       D
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