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       #Post#: 116407--------------------------------------------------
       APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: FlipFlop
       Date: April 20, 2026, 6:38 am
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       Hi all,
       I have looked through other posts so if I have missed a relevant
       one which would answer my query please link!
       In Dec 2025 my car was used to drop off at southampton parkway
       train station. The driver sat in the car for a few minutes, in
       the 20 minute drop off point.
       I received a penalty notice from apcoa just after Christmas. I
       ignored it, as I have since lost a parent and been in hospital
       myself.
       The notice shows 2 pictures both times at 10.07am. The driver
       didn't park and doesn't understand the liablility for any
       charges as the time stamp on both pictures is the same.
       I am now being chased, as the owner, by QDR solicitors, with
       threats of enforcement if I don't pay, and a follow up letter
       from GCTT enforcement agents. QDR are now calling also.
       The driver only used the waiting area, to drop off a passenger,
       but the wording is use of a private car park without a permit.
       Did the driver turn around in an area crossing a point where
       charges become liable? Further visits to the station show there
       are no signs to suggest this is the case. The car park and
       waiting area there are busy at the best of times and the driver
       may have had to drive further in to turn around but doesn't
       believe so.
       I have had no contact with apcoa or QDR regarding this, what are
       the options for this as it is a PN rather than a PCN? Is the
       time stamp on both pictures being exactly the same relevant as
       in this doesn't demonstrate any actual use of the car park?
       letters with identifying details blanked out here
  HTML https://postimg.cc/gallery/Yv1FTs8
       Thank you for any advise! This shouldn't have been ignored but
       that can't be changed now!
       #Post#: 116421--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: April 20, 2026, 7:44 am
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       What date in December? The legislation relating to train
       stations and parking/penalty charges changed in December, so we
       need the date of the event.
       It being APCOA, the usual response is to ignore them.
       #Post#: 116437--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: FlipFlop
       Date: April 20, 2026, 8:51 am
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       11th December 2025, sorry I missed that!
       So do I not acknowledge this at all? What happens if they
       continue to chase/ take court action? I am getting letters from
       GCTT who are certified enforcement agents, as well as from QDR.
       Thank you for your reply!
       #Post#: 116439--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: April 20, 2026, 8:54 am
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       It is our experience that APCOA don’t “do” court.
       In the unlikely event that they do, you have a defence against a
       civil claim because it was not “relevant land” under PoFA to
       transfer liability from the unknown driver to the registered
       keeper.
       Ignore debt collectors anyway.
       #Post#: 116440--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: FlipFlop
       Date: April 20, 2026, 8:55 am
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       --- Quote from: FlipFlop link ---
       >
       > 11th December 2025, sorry I missed that!
       >
       > So do I not acknowledge this at all? What happens if they
       continue to chase/ take court action? I am getting letters from
       GCTT who are certified enforcement agents, as well as from QDR.
       >
       > Thank you for your reply!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Also to add this is a penalty notice rather than a PCN, does the
       same advise apply?
       Thank you!
       #Post#: 116442--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: April 20, 2026, 8:58 am
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       I've yet to see APCOA take a single case to court, ever.
       This being a penalty notice rather than a Parking Charge, there
       would be even less incentive for them to go to court. As they
       have alleged a breach of byelaws, this would be a criminal
       matter. If they wanted to go to court, they would need to
       prosecute you in the magistrates court. If they did this, they
       would not get any financial reward, so there's pretty much no
       incentive for them to do so.
       Out of interest, can we see the letter from QDR?
       #Post#: 116448--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: FlipFlop
       Date: April 20, 2026, 9:20 am
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  HTML https://postimg.cc/ZCbqJJMt
       Letter from QDR .. thought I had included this in the original
       images!
       #Post#: 116449--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: FlipFlop
       Date: April 20, 2026, 9:21 am
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       Thank you!
       So what do I do regarding the enforcement and solicitors
       contact? Continue to ignore?
       Letter from QDR attached in my post above, I hope!
       #Post#: 116450--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: jfollows
       Date: April 20, 2026, 9:24 am
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       Yes, ignore, they’re just debt collectors dressed up as
       solicitors. GCTT likewise. Debt collectors have no power other
       than trying to frighten you with words and red ink.
       #Post#: 116453--------------------------------------------------
       Re: APCOA PN - SW train station drop off - no permit/payment -
       solicitors letter rec
   DIR By: FlipFlop
       Date: April 20, 2026, 9:34 am
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       --- Quote from: jfollows link ---
       >
       > Yes, ignore, they’re just debt collectors dressed up as
       solicitors. GCTT likewise. Debt collectors have no power other
       than trying to frighten you with words and red ink.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thank you!
       So do I just continue to ignore all contact? I've dealt with
       debt collectors before, sadly, but the GCTT letter was more than
       I expected.
       Is there a particular letter I need to look out for where I need
       to stop ignoring them?
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