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CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31 j
DIR By: Secret_Squirrel1970
Date: April 19, 2026, 10:52 am
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My issue with this is not so much the contravention on
11/11/2025 – but that this is the first I had heard of this. I
received a letter (Charge Certificate) c. 16th/17th April (dated
13th April).
But have had no prior notice of this at all.
I did move house in November 2025 and I have already chased
(DVLA) and had a letter from DVLA - back in January - that they
messed up (lost) my address change on V5s. That aside, the first
I hear about this should not be Charge Certificate where they
have now upped things to £240.00
The location of the contravention is
Piccadilly - Dover/Arlington
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/9JiYFr561rsVzT2Z8
There are no images of the contravention - just the charge cert'
shown here.
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/YNLGGoi_xl.jpeg
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
j
DIR By: Secret_Squirrel1970
Date: April 19, 2026, 11:10 am
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I am used to fighting private parking companies so this council
stuff is all a bit new to me, but I did find a previous post of
mine regarding a missed/late bus lane charge from
Barking/Dagenham...
I had to wait for OFR to register at TEC - and use PE3 form or
something.. i dont know if the same sort of rules apply with
this box junction. :-\
#Post#: 116340--------------------------------------------------
Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
j
DIR By: RichardW
Date: April 19, 2026, 12:00 pm
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There's a statutory process to get it reset if you didn't get
the original PCN:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/
You need to he proactive and get the necessary forms sent off
once the debt is registered - there's a limited no of days where
the council must cancel the OFR - after that it is out of time
and the council can reject it.
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
j
DIR By: catnip
Date: April 19, 2026, 12:05 pm
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--- Quote from: Secret_Squirrel1970 link ---
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>
> There are no images of the contravention - just the charge
cert' shown here.
>
>
--- End Quote ---
The Westminster website
HTML https://appeals.westminster.gov.uk
has
photos and a video.
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
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DIR By: Secret_Squirrel1970
Date: April 19, 2026, 12:09 pm
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--- Quote from: catnip link ---
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> [quote author=Secret_Squirrel1970
link=topic=10565.msg116333#msg116333 date=1776613970]
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> There are no images of the contravention - just the charge
cert' shown here.
>
>
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The Westminster website
HTML https://appeals.westminster.gov.uk
has
photos and a video.
[/quote]
Cheers, found them.... although it seems moot at this point as I
am waiting for the OFR to then get it knocked back to getting
the original PCN.
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
j
DIR By: Secret_Squirrel1970
Date: April 19, 2026, 12:13 pm
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--- Quote from: RichardW link ---
>
> There's a statutory process to get it reset if you didn't get
the original PCN:
>
>
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/
>
> You need to he proactive and get the necessary forms sent off
once the debt is registered - there's a limited no of days where
the council must cancel the OFR - after that it is out of time
and the council can reject it.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks, that's the process I remember from before with a bus
lane or some such in Dagenham.
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
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DIR By: Secret_Squirrel1970
Date: June 2, 2026, 4:07 am
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I have kept checking with TEC - still not registered.
I imagine the Councils drag their feet a bit so as to save the
£10 fee which I assume comes from their budget.
Meanwhile a letter from Marstons Debt Collectors - acting on
behalf of the council - the debt is still £240, so no £10 extra
fee added on, not at OFR state yet.
Should have contemplated this earlier it is likely too late now,
or may not be advisable - is it worth direct to council pointing
out it will cost them £10, I will get it knocked back down to
the original amount anyway so why don't they just offer me that
now and not bother with the extra stage? I am not contesting
the ticket/PCN just the fact that is has become inflated to £240
due to DVLA and postal service being shoddy.
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
j
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 2, 2026, 5:48 am
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It is urgent that you post up the letter from Marsdens, please.
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
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DIR By: Secret_Squirrel1970
Date: June 2, 2026, 5:58 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> It is urgent that you post up the letter from Marsdens,
please.
>
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HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/JpdRrwL.jpeg
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Re: CHARGE CERTIFICATE - Westminster - Box Junction - Code 31
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DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: June 2, 2026, 6:15 am
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Ok, it's fine, the letter is just a debt collector intimidation
letter, and in my view, illegal intimidation, because there is a
legal process to be followed which does not include debt
collectors at this stage, so passing on the matter to debt
collectors is unlawful. That's my view, anyway. You will notice
that the letter makes no mention of the facility to submit a
Statutory Declaration.
So, on to debt registration, which will add £10 to the amount,
and you can then submit a Statutory Declaration to get the
matter reverted back to the PCN stage.
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