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       #Post#: 116227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: April 17, 2026, 5:17 pm
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       Apologies NewJudge for the 'dumb' rating - fat fingers and now I
       can't undo it!
       #Post#: 116230--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: April 17, 2026, 6:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
       >
       > Apologies NewJudge for the 'dumb' rating - fat fingers and now
       I can't undo it!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You’re fired! 🤣
       #Post#: 116234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: April 18, 2026, 1:49 am
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       In that case why was the February payment not taken? How about
       the March payment? Don't waste your money on lawyers, the court
       outcome will be the samel
       #Post#: 116237--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: April 18, 2026, 2:45 am
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       is there a case for reasonable expectation of cover? evidence of
       Auto renew, "your covered" emails.
       in these circumstances would most people bother to check the
       payment had gond out? even if it hadn't a delay on behalf the
       company to collect the money shouldn't negate cover surely??
       #Post#: 116240--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: mikerc1000
       Date: April 18, 2026, 3:11 am
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       Hi MickR,
       There are two online statments from Saga that point to my
       expectation:
       FAQ On their website:
  HTML https://www.saga.co.uk/car-insurance/faqs?srsltid
       How do I renew my policy?
       You will be sent a renewal invitation at least 21 days before
       your renewal date. Your renewal invitation will then also be
       available for you to review and renew for home and motor
       policies on MySaga. If you pay by Direct Debit or set up a
       continuous payment when you took out your policy, don’t worry we
       will automatically renew it for you.
       Once I've purchased car insurance how can I get my policy
       documents?
       We automatically send an email with a link to your documents so
       that you can review and download them at any time. They will be
       added to your MySaga account within 24 hours. If you have
       requested for your documents to be sent out to you in the post,
       you should receive them within three to six working days.
       -
       Now Read the renewal email from Saga:
       You're covered - here are your Saga insurance documents
       From
       documents@saga.co.uk
       on
       2025-12-27 07:58
       Next
       This is an automated email. Please do not reply as this in an
       unmonitored inbox and your message will not be seen.
       Your reference number: xxxxxx
       Dear Mr M xxx
       Thank you for contacting us about your Saga car insurance
       policy.
       Your amended renewal documents are now available to view. Please
       usethe link below and check your documents carefully to make
       sure that alldetails are correct and you have the cover you
       need.
       If any of your information is incorrect or you have any
       questions regardingyour policy, you can make a number of
       amendments online, 24/7, by usingour online portal by clicking
       on the MyPolicy link below. Alternatively
       chat online
       with our specialist insurance team, or call us on
       0800 056 9128
       . Lines are open between 8.30am and 8pm Monday
       I can forward the email to show you it is authentic.
       Regards
       mikerc1000
       #Post#: 116268--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: sparx
       Date: April 18, 2026, 6:42 am
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       When was your call on the 27th December?
       Big (poorly designed) corporate computer systems normally have a
       flaw where one piece won't talk to another quickly - systems
       sending letters and emails sometimes being one of them. So it is
       possible that perhaps your auto-renewal has been cancelled, and
       the policy has not been put back in place for some reason (or a
       computer error has occurred At this point). The renewal email
       was already going to wing its way to you. Have you actually paid
       anything for Jan's cover?
       Have you, at any point, had sight of an insurance schedule or
       certificate? For instance, attached in the renewal email?
       IMO you should send a SAR to Saga NOW including a request for
       call audio recordings, transcripts, or both if held, along with
       policy inception/expiry dates etc. I would also lodge a
       complaint with them regarding your renewal email.
       None of this solves the current legal issue of holding no
       insurance at this point, but if Saga were to admit they made an
       error, they can confirm cover was actually in place at the time,
       giving you a defence.
       #Post#: 116273--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: mikerc1000
       Date: April 18, 2026, 8:28 am
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       Hi MikeR,
       Here ia a copy of the renewal storeed on the portal. Whaen i
       tried to access it again. I could not find.
       Here is the exact wording:
       24 December 2025
       Dear xx
       Time to renew your Saga Standard car insurance as your
       policy expires soon - renew before 16 January 2026 to stay
       covered
       Thanks for choosing Saga to insure your AUDI A4, registration
       number
       xxx this year. Your policy is due to renew on 16 January 2026,
       and
       we've enclosed your new Schedule.
       Your renewal price for the year is xxxx with monthly payments of
       £xx.xx. This includes an 11.2% credit charge of £xx.xx (26.6%
       APR fixed).
       You'll find details and a representative example in your
       Schedule. Last year
       your policy cost £xxx.xx
       Please review your level of cover to ensure it still meets your
       needs.
       You may be able to get the insurance cover you want at a better
       price if you
       shop around. Please remember to make sure the other cover is
       comparable
       to your Saga policy, which includes many great features and
       benefits.
       At Saga we have 3 Comprehensive cover levels that can be
       tailored to suit
       your needs and budget: Standard, Select and Plus. If you'd like
       to discuss
       the different options call us on 0800 904 7908 and we will help
       you find the
       cover that is right for you.
       Just so you're clear about your cover, please take a look at
       your Schedule.
       Your new policy also has a higher excess. This is set out in the
       excess
       section of your Schedule.
       One, two, renew
       You pay by Direct Debit so unless those details have changed
       your policy
       will renew automatically. If you do need to change your payment
       method,
       please go to saga.co.uk/mypolicy or call us on 0800 904 7908 at
       least five
       days before 16 January 2026.
       1.
       Check the Schedule. Any changes or mistakes? Then please let us
       know
       or correct them.
       2. Please keep these documents somewhere safe, along with the
       policy
       book we previously sent you – please let us know if you
       need a new one.
       Remember you can review and change your details 24/7 after
       renewal at
       saga.co.uk/mypolicy
       CAR INSURANCE
       Renewal invitation
       Your reference number
       xxxx
       Access your policy online
       24/7 to renew, review or
       make changes by visiting
       saga.co.uk/mypolicy
       Any questions? Call us
       0800 904 7908
       We've always
       got time for you:
       Monday to Friday 8.30am to
       8pm, Saturday 8.30am to
       5pm and Sunday 9am to 5pm
       Some highlights
       of your policy
       Uninsured driver cover- As long as you get their
       vehicle details you won’t
       lose your NCD or pay any
       excess on a claim.
       Guaranteed replacement
       car - We’ll lend you a
       courtesy car if yours is
       being repaired by a garage
       in our network.
       You don't need to do
       anything as your policy will
       be renewed automatically.
       Payment will be taken 5 days before your renewal date. If you
       wish to cancel and prevent payment from being
       taken please get in contact at least 5 days before your renewal
       date.
       Got a question about renewing your policy or want to discuss
       different cover options with us? Please call
       us on 0800 904 7908. We're here to help if you want to change
       your details, update your communication
       preferences, or if you experience any financial concerns. You
       can also update your communication
       preferences at saga.co.uk/mysaga
       We look forward to providing you cover for another 12 months
       I will send you the full document by private message.
       The More I read into it. The more detail I get. This quote was
       not sent by ltter mail or email. It was only total luck that I
       found the document in my downloads folder. I must have clicked
       on it around 24 Dec.
       Regards mikerc1000
       #Post#: 116274--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: April 18, 2026, 8:55 am
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       --- Quote from: sparxy link ---
       > None of this solves the current legal issue of holding no
       insurance at this point, but if Saga were to admit they made an
       error, they can confirm cover was actually in place at the time,
       giving you a defence.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If no cover was actually in force at the time, does a
       retrospective acceptance of cover provide a defence (i.e. the
       accused cannot be convicted regardless) or just provide an
       excuse for the prosecution to withdraw the charge on the grounds
       of the public interest test no longer being met? There is a
       difference.
       #Post#: 116277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: mikerc1000
       Date: April 18, 2026, 9:25 am
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       Hi Southpaw,
       what is not explined by saga is that I got a "Your Covered"
       email on 27th Dec. it must have been triggered by the agent
       otherwise I would have not got the "your Covered" email.
       Unfortunately it did not have pdf attachments with the updated
       policy. It just had a link to go to the portal to view
       documents. I can email it to you as proof.
       You are right, of course. This this not fix the original police
       stop which did include an MIB check at the roadside.
       My defence was, I took the "your Covered" email literally.
       Facing denial that my renewl activity atually happend. Called
       for the voice logs and suspect, I am up against a big corporate
       here.
       If they just admidded it was an IT screw up or an agent error.
       Then I submit that to the police. No intention of pursuing Saga.
       Already moved on to a more modern insurance provider.
       Regards
       mikerc1000
       #Post#: 116279--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught No Insurrance IN10 but have email from Saga saying
       "your covered" - URGENT
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: April 18, 2026, 10:06 am
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       --- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
       >
       > If no cover was actually in force at the time, does a
       retrospective acceptance of cover provide a defence (i.e. the
       accused cannot be convicted regardless) or just provide an
       excuse for the prosecution to withdraw the charge on the grounds
       of the public interest test no longer being met? There is a
       difference.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       *If* there was no cover in place at the material time, then the
       intended insurer saying that as no incident occurred they would
       be happy to nominally retrospectively indemnify against a
       non-existent liability, would not change the fact that cover was
       not in place at the material time.
       However, I would argue that insurance is a contract, and
       therefore a matter of construction, not a matter for one party
       to unilaterally deny. If the parties have "agreed" that the
       policy will automatically renew, on the face of it that is
       executory consideration from both parties and a binding
       contractual term, subject to any cancellation clauses.
       If the Financial Services Ombudsman were to order the insurer to
       retrospectively provide the cover it stated it would, then I
       would suggest that would be the equivalent of ab initio -
       meaning that cover was in place at the material time, for all
       practical purposes the same as if a court of law found that as a
       matter of construction the policy was in place. I would further
       suggest that as a matter of public policy, for the universal
       scam of default auto-renewal to be workable, the party imposing
       the clause cannot simply wash their hands of their own failure.
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