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       #Post#: 116226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon PCN Contravention 62 Elers Rd -signs totally
       misleading!
   DIR By: Innocentman
       Date: April 17, 2026, 4:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: tincombe link ---
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       > Footway parking in Hillingdon has evolved over decades, with
       over 400 roads
       > historically exempted from enforcement. Many of these
       exemptions were informal or
       > temporary, often lacking compliant signage or markings
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       I live in Hillingdon, and in our road everybody parked with 2
       wheels on the pavement, even though it wasn't allowed, because
       if you didn't there wasn't room between 2 cars fully on the road
       for another car to pass, let alone a fire engine, or ambulance,
       or bin lorry.
       It had been thus for as long as anybody could remember, and then
       one day people started getting ticketed.   Not long after they
       outsourced enforcement, IIRC.
       I organised a petition objecting to this, and we were granted a
       "temporary footway parking exemption" until the problem could be
       discussed at a Council meeting.  Which it never was.  Our
       "temporary" exemption lasted for over a decade, until they
       decided that they could make money by introducing a residents'
       parking scheme which no resident wanted, and which involved
       marking out parking bays half on the pavement.
       But at no time during the 10+ years of the temporary exemption
       was there a single sign or road marking.
       #Post#: 116247--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon PCN Contravention 62 Elers Rd -signs totally
       misleading!
   DIR By: tincombe
       Date: April 18, 2026, 4:39 am
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       OP, from this useful post and the extract from the committee
       report you can see the utter shambles which represents the
       council's approach to footway parking.
       I suggest you therefore make reps along the lines suggested and
       add that by its own admission - and quote the committee report-
       the signing is not compliant [with underlying resolutions].
       Therefore, before considering your reps, the authority must
       refer to the resolution for *** in order to satisfy itself as to
       the extent of permitted footway parking because it is clear that
       simple reliance upon existing signage is not sufficient.
       #Post#: 116281--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon PCN Contravention 62 Elers Rd -signs totally
       misleading!
   DIR By: marybilly
       Date: April 18, 2026, 11:30 am
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       Thanks everyone for all your help. I will give it a go!
       #Post#: 116283--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon PCN Contravention 62 Elers Rd -signs totally
       misleading!
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: April 18, 2026, 12:14 pm
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       I think it would be best if tincombe writes it for you in full.
       #Post#: 116284--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon PCN Contravention 62 Elers Rd -signs totally
       misleading!
   DIR By: marybilly
       Date: April 18, 2026, 12:28 pm
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       Oh that would be brilliant if that is possible. How do I make
       this happen?
       #Post#: 116446--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon PCN Contravention 62 Elers Rd -signs totally
       misleading!
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: April 20, 2026, 9:03 am
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       If you want to go on you need to wait for the NTO.
       If the discount is still on offer you can consider bailing out.
       #Post#: 116452--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon PCN Contravention 62 Elers Rd -signs totally
       misleading!
   DIR By: marybilly
       Date: April 20, 2026, 9:34 am
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       Yes I am still in the discount period. Its tempting to bail, but
       on the other hand they have done such a shambolic job of making
       the signs even worse than they were before that I don't want to
       pay them for it!
       What would you do?
       #Post#: 116463--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hillingdon PCN Contravention 62 Elers Rd -signs totally
       misleading!
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: April 20, 2026, 10:27 am
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       I'm in two minds - I'd say have a go on the resolution angle
       plus the change of signs/markings as they will probably reoffer
       the discount if they reject again.
       See if tincombe pops up with thoughts.
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