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UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: grandprix77
Date: April 15, 2026, 3:38 pm
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i went to pick up a friend from leeds railway station and
mistook the pick up point for a taxi rank due to the volume of
taxis there. when i realised i had missed the entry i pulled
over to reverse around a corner and enter the pick up area. i
saw a red sign and changed my glasses to read it and saw it was
a 'no stopping sign' i have received a PCN from UKCPS for
stopping for 40 seconds (according to their time stamped cctv)
while i read the 'no stopping' sign. once i read the sign i
left. while i was reading the sign my passenger had seen me miss
the pick up entry and walked down to the car and got in while i
was stationary. i have appealed to UKCPS which they rejected and
have now appealed to IAS but in my appeal i used a template from
AI and mistakenly referred to 'my' stopping. does this now ruin
my defense of not naming the driver as the station is subject to
railway byelaws and not relevant land. Further the signage on
the entry to the station area is situated at a mini roundabout
and next on an uphill sloping road in front of a pedestrian
crossing which makes reading these signs impossible as attention
is rightly focused on navigating the road. What do i do when IAS
inevitably rejects my appeal? Any help would be appreciated
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 16, 2026, 3:21 am
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The railway bylaws argument is only relevant if the date of the
event is 2025 or earlier, the law changed at the end of 2025 on
this point.
Without your reading and acting on
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/<br
/>we can only guess.
There are several other threads covering the same “offence” on
this forum if you search for them.
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: grandprix77
Date: April 16, 2026, 6:10 am
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Yes the violation was this year so i guess the PoFA argument
fails. however, there is still the issue of signage situated in
positions it makes it impossible to read without violating safe
driving practices and also being allowed a consideration period
to decide to enter a contract or not. |Am i right in thinking
this?
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: Dave65
Date: April 16, 2026, 7:47 am
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What did you put in the appeal?
Was the driver Identified?
Can you get photos of the signage showing the positions?
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: grandprix77
Date: April 16, 2026, 10:20 am
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Hi, i based my appeal on the railway byelaws using a previous
response from on here. however, i didnt know the law had changed
at the end of 2025 so this argument is flawed. I also mentioned
the signage being in a position which makes it impossible to
read as it is at a mini roundabout and also on an uphill road
leading to a pedestrian crossing so a drivers attention should
rightly be on driving with due care and attention. I also
mentioned the car stopped for 40 secs (according to cctv) which
was the time taken to notice a sign, change glasses and read it
before deciding to leave. i didnt identify the driver but in my
AI generated letter it said 'My stopping' so im concerned this
will fatally undermine my defence of not naming the driver.
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: Dave65
Date: April 16, 2026, 11:11 am
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Can you post up a copy of the PPN you received?
With personal details redacted but leave dates.
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: grandprix77
Date: April 16, 2026, 1:57 pm
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This is the PCN they sent me
HTML http://imagebam.com/view/ME1C94ZK
HTML https://ibb.co/s9HSyTsV
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 17, 2026, 1:02 am
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There is also no “period of parking” as required by PoFA 2012 to
transfer liability if the driver is not identified, however you
may well have done so in your appeal.
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: grandprix77
Date: April 17, 2026, 1:33 pm
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Hi, what does this mean “no period of parking” why is that
important for transferring PoFa liability? Thanks
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Re: UKCPS leeds station
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 17, 2026, 1:51 pm
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Look it up!
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
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> 9(1)A notice which is to be relied on as a notice to keeper
for the purposes of paragraph 6(1)(b) is given in accordance
with this paragraph if the following requirements are met.
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> (2)The notice must—
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> (a)specify the vehicle, the relevant land on which it was
parked and the period of parking to which the notice relates;
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