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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: October 25, 2023, 3:37 am
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Morning all,
Received the following response following my appeal to the
tribunal:
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Thank you for your appeal which was received on 18th October
2023.
The hearing will take place on: [date] at [time] at London
Tribunals, Chancery
Exchange, Ground Floor North, 10 Furnival Street, LONDON, EC4A
1AB.
This will be your opportunity to explain your appeal to the
Adjudicator. Any witness that you wish to
call should attend with you. If a witness is unable to attend
the hearing, you should provide a
statement from that witness.
Prior to your hearing, please read the leaflet on the appeal
process and procedures which can be
found on our website at
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/environment-and-traffic-adjudicators-your-
appeal.
If you would prefer to take part in the above hearing by
telephone, please email
LT.Reception@londontribunals.gov.uk by return, providing your
telephone number and the telephone
number of your representative, or any witness you are calling.
Please quote your case reference
number in the email subject. Please do not use this e-mail
address for any other queries.
If you are unable to attend your hearing, either in person or by
telephone (if indicated), the Adjudicator
will consider your case based on the evidence that you and the
Enforcement Authority have provided,
and you will be notified of the decision.
We have sent a copy of your appeal to the Enforcement Authority.
The authority is unlikely to
participate in the hearing. You should receive a copy of the
Enforcement Authority’s evidence directly
from the authority at least three days before the hearing. If
you have been issued a verification code
by the Enforcement Authority you may also view the evidence via
the appellant portal on our website.
If you require any further assistance or information about this
matter, please do not hesitate to contact
London Tribunals either by telephone or in writing using the
contact details at the top of this letter.
Please quote your Case Reference Number, 2230463337, in all
communications.
An independent tribunal for environment, parking and traffic
penalty appeals
Environment and Traffic Adjudicators are supported by London
Tribunals, a service provided by London Councils
Calls to London Tribunals may be recorded
Case Management Team
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Any advice that can be provided on what I can do at the hearing
will be much appreciated. Hearing is at the start of December.
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Grant Urismo
Date: October 25, 2023, 4:21 am
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The next step is for the council to provide their evidence pack
to the adjudicator, which you'll have access to (if they fail to
do this, you win by default).
Your task at the tribunal is to responding to whatever they put
in that pack, so for now all you need to do is keep an eye out
for it, and post here when it's available.
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: October 25, 2023, 11:42 am
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Ok, thanks. I'll check the case appeal case regularly and will
post here if sent.
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 28, 2023, 7:14 pm
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Why don't you just tell us when the hearing is?
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: October 30, 2023, 9:19 am
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Beginning of December
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: October 30, 2023, 9:44 am
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You don't want to say then...
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: October 31, 2023, 3:27 am
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Just aware these are public forums...we're encouraged to keep
names and personal correspondence private when sharing
correspondence, i dont know if tribunal details are easily
searched or open to the public so perhaps I'm being overly
cautious but if it has no bearing I'm happy to share the date
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 31, 2023, 6:04 pm
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--- Quote from: Hodor51 link ---
>
> Just aware these are public forums...we're encouraged to keep
names and personal correspondence private when sharing
correspondence, i dont know if tribunal details are easily
searched or open to the public so perhaps I'm being overly
cautious but if it has no bearing I'm happy to share the date
>
--- End Quote ---
There is a thing known as the open justice principle, see
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_justice
and
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/open-justice-the-way-forward/call-for-evidence-document-open-justice-the-way-forward
Hence all tribunal listings are public, anyone can go to
HTML https://londontribunals.org.uk/
and click on "View the daily
list of appeals" and look up all upcoming cases.
The council already knows about the hearing because the tribunal
will have sent them a notification.
Given that I can't be bothered to go through the daily case list
to find your case on the tribunal website, the only people who
are now in the dark are the people on this forum who are trying
to help you...
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: October 31, 2023, 10:49 pm
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Ok that's good to know. My case doesnt currently appear but I'm
guessing cos its only showing the next couple of weeks. My
hearing is on the 2nd of December.
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 1, 2023, 3:03 pm
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OK, so now you just need to let us know if / when the council
contests the case.
Don't rely on the post, just check the tribunal portal once a
week or so. in the last 10 days before the hearing, check every
day. If they upload something very late you can call up the
tribunal and get a reschedule, the tribunal gives up to two
reschedules of up to 28 days administratively, no questions
asked.
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