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Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: June 27, 2023, 4:11 am
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Posting a summary thread on request.
Received PCN 14th May for parking without a valid permit.
Have subsequently challenged on basis of procedural impropriety
Have yet to receive a response from the council.
Please let me know if any further information is needed from me
or if the above will suffice
Thanks.
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: June 27, 2023, 4:28 am
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At the very leeast you need a link to the thread at Pepipoo.
See
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 27, 2023, 10:52 am
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Please post up the PCN and any other documents sent / received
on here.
The response from the council to my EIR request is below:
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Please find attached time stamped pictures of signs taken on the
4th of May 2023. Photos taken as part of record keeping for
when the ‘next events’ sign plates were installed; informing of
events scheduled for the 14th and 28th of May 2023
HTML https://i.imgur.com/nxqf2rn.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/ZBje92A.jpg
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: June 28, 2023, 4:03 am
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Link to previous post on Pepipoo is:
HTML http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=149864&hl=Haringey
PCN re-attached below
HTML https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52905243743_fa20db8b05_k.jpg
Written representation copy below:
Dear Sir/Madame,
I'm writing to challenge the PCN issued to my vehicle
(14/05/2023 / GV66 KEU). I'm providing representation on the
grounds that I believe the ticket was issued incorrectly/there
was procedural impropriety on the part of the enforcement
authority. As the evidence shows, the signage stated that it was
a resident's permit holders only from Noon-4.30pm on Sundays and
Public holidays but this was on Match and event days only. Upon
parking, I didn't observe any signage in the immediate vicinity,
other than the photos taken as evidence by the Enforcement
officer, to inform me that it was a match day.
There is no evidence on the photos of any signs stating that the
14th May 2023 was an event day and parking restrictions were in
force. If there were, please provide me with evidence of such
signage that is date and time stamped at the time of the alleged
contravention.
If the evidence is not readily available, given the above, I
believe the PCN should be cancelled.
Sincerely,
Adam Pearson
As of this morning, I've received no response to this and have
saved a screen grab (inc. date and time) that shows no update
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: June 28, 2023, 4:07 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> Please post up the PCN and any other documents sent / received
on here.
>
> The response from the council to my EIR request is below:
>
>
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> Please find attached time stamped pictures of signs taken on
the 4th of May 2023. Photos taken as part of record keeping
for when the ‘next events’ sign plates were installed; informing
of events scheduled for the 14th and 28th of May 2023
>
>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/nxqf2rn.jpg
>
>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/ZBje92A.jpg
>
--- End Quote ---
What are your thoughts on this response
[member=1]cp8759[/member]? Personally, I'm not sure if evidences
either way that signs were present on or near Oakfield road?
Unless there is alternative evidence that they can provide.
Although, the evidence they have and also the additional picture
of another sign on Oakfield Road that I took a picture of,
doesn't show the signage demonstrated in the response to the
EIR.
I'm guessing we'll have to wait and see what their response is
to my challenge? Is there a time limit to which they have to
respond to the challenge legally?
#Post#: 569--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 28, 2023, 5:26 am
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In the first instance please post all the documents on here so
everything is in one place please.
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - parked in space without
permit - Oakfield Road - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: July 11, 2023, 3:47 am
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Correspondence that I sent should be in the thread above.
Original PCN
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T_nri7iJq4qhDjShqNSaj7zzAZSOjgTQ/view?usp=sharing
I've now received a response from Haringey and they have decided
not to cancel the PCN. I've attached the letter and redacted
name and address. Please let me know if you need me to copy and
paste the text from the letter onto the thread?
[attachment deleted by admin]
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 11, 2023, 6:07 pm
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I have gone back and asked if they have photos of the signs you
would have passed, I should have double check but it's now
obvious that the photos they've provided are of some other
location.
Obviously the next step is to wait for the Notice to Owner,
assuming you have the V5C and the address is up to date?
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Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 12, 2023, 4:58 am
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Latest photos from the council:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/I3QjiX2.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/aNoMlLs.jpg
#Post#: 1962--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey Council - PCN 12(r) - thread from pepipoo
DIR By: Hodor51
Date: July 25, 2023, 7:01 pm
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Yes V5 is up to date. I think today is the last day i can pay
the reduced fees. Given the latest photos they've provided is
there a case here? I really dont remember seeing this signage
upon entry to the area (as focusing on the road in front of me
but i guess that's what they count on) and unfortunately i dont
have camera footage or anything to back myself up
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