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       Ticketed at 22MPH? (Really?)
   DIR By: facade
       Date: April 12, 2026, 1:40 pm
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       Apologies for mentioning the Daily Fail, so  this is unlikely to
       have much relation to the truth, but they are claiming that Dr
       Gary Duffield, a London Psychiatrist has done a course and
       accepted 2 more 3 point penalties all for 22MPH in a 20. (So 3
       NIPs for 22MPH) as well as another for 25MPH so another one and
       he is paying for taxis for 6 months...
       (Google reveals there is indeed a Dr Gary Duffield)
       The MET publicly claim to follow the "10% plus 2" guidelines, so
       either the article is distorting the truth somewhat or the MET
       are getting nearer to zero tolerance.
       If you want to read it
  HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15726257/Psychiatrist-faces-road-ban-22mph-breaking-unjust-limit.html
       I note that they claim that he received a course and a fine for
       the first offence, so they aren't overly bothered about factual
       accuracy (who knew!)
       The same article appears in the Torygraph, but I refuse to give
       them an email address to access it.
       A pity he didn't post his NIPs on here.....
       It didn't mention whether these were cameras though, or if he
       was followed at speed and 22 was the minimum.
       #Post#: 115706--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticketed at 22MPH? (Really?)
   DIR By: peak4
       Date: April 13, 2026, 7:46 am
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       There's quite a few other reports on the back of that one,
       though some seem to credit The Telegraph with the original
       story.
       Inevitably it's being politicised by various media, here in the
       Telegraph via archive ph
       Badenoch: Drivers shouldn’t be fined for doing 22 in a 20mph
       zone
  HTML https://archive.ph/js7Lk
       Tory leader says police should be catching thieves rather than
       targeting motorists
       Kemi Badenoch has suggested that motorists should not be fined
       for exceeding 20mph speed limits by a couple of miles per hour.
       The Conservative Party leader argued that enforcing the lower
       limit was not always a good use of police time as shoplifting
       and burglaries surge nationwide...........
       Between 2017 and 2023, the equivalent of one in every four cars
       registered in London was given a speeding fine for exceeding
       20mph.
       Mrs Badenoch went on to recall being told by an MP about a taxi
       driver in their constituency who lost his licence after driving
       at 21mph three times in a 20mph zone.
       She continued: “That’s his livelihood. I’m not sure that that’s
       fair
       #Post#: 115709--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticketed at 22MPH? (Really?)
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: April 13, 2026, 8:04 am
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       --- Quote from: peak4 link ---
       >
       > Mrs Badenoch went on to recall being told by an MP about a
       taxi driver in their constituency who lost his licence after
       driving at 21mph three times in a 20mph zone.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Taxi drivers and politicians being two professions that are
       seldom prone to exaggeration...
       #Post#: 115711--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticketed at 22MPH? (Really?)
   DIR By: 666
       Date: April 13, 2026, 8:25 am
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       "Tory leader says police should be catching thieves rather than
       targeting motorists"
       An old friend of mine - a retired Chief Constable - used to
       respond with "If they were any good at catching thieves they
       wouldn't be working in traffic."
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       Re: Ticketed at 22MPH? (Really?)
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: April 13, 2026, 9:10 am
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       On this forum, on occasions where a driver has claimed to have
       seen action taken against him for driving below (Limit + 10% +
       2mph), he is often asked if he would provide some proof of that.
       So far as I can recall, none has ever been forthcoming.
       Based on that, and the Met’s assertion that they comply with the
       NPCC’s guidelines, I simply do not believe that a driver has
       seen action for 22 in a 20 limit on three occasions.
       #Post#: 115758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticketed at 22MPH? (Really?)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: April 13, 2026, 2:02 pm
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       The Met prosecutes at 24mph in 20mph limits or it did in 2023.
       One Traffic Offence Report at 23mph.
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       #Post#: 115798--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticketed at 22MPH? (Really?)
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: April 14, 2026, 3:36 am
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       That thing that will annoy me about that Kemi statement is no
       one will pull her up on it.
       Do they honestly think that the same Police staff processing
       NIPs and COFPs are all frontline officers? I'm not sure I want
       Janine from the Dog & Duck investigating my house burglary.
       #Post#: 115800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ticketed at 22MPH? (Really?)
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: April 14, 2026, 3:48 am
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       The good Dr won't have been done 3 times for 22mph in a 20. Our
       main sample set is from here, but generally most of the outraged
       about receiving a ticket for speeding will invariably say they
       were only doing 10% or less over the speed limit.
       In my local there are at least 3 blokes who swear blind a camera
       got them at 31mph in a 30. I tend to politely tell them they are
       talking out of their hoop.
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