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#Post#: 115638--------------------------------------------------
Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: tincombe
Date: April 12, 2026, 10:48 am
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PCN looks OK. You should submit reps before 20th as this would
likely protect the discount.
IMO, your only point at this stage appears to be that you think
the council has marked this length of road in error in that
either it is private and notwithstanding any provision in a
traffic order to the contrary they have no lawful authority to
restrict this area or that there is no provision restricting
this length and overzealous contractors have marked it in error.
#Post#: 116057--------------------------------------------------
Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: Clarabell
Date: April 16, 2026, 7:39 am
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Hi thank you for the advice. Although I think the council were
wrong to ticket me on private land, I think I am just going to
go ahead and pay the £30(ish) fine as appealing it seems less
straight forward than I had anticipated. Thanks again for the
advice and help.
#Post#: 116061--------------------------------------------------
Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 16, 2026, 8:48 am
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Adopted highways map shows extent of adoption in the Nurseries.
HTML https://maps.westnorthants.gov.uk/webmappingpublic/en-gb/PublicMap/WNC_Map?x=475298.457767662&y=260471.25965579966&resolution=45.7763671875&baselayer=Default%20OS%20Basemap&datalayers=West%20Northamptonshire%2CHighways%20Register#/featureinformation
HTML https://i.ibb.co/QvScnjr6/Screenshot-2026-04-16-at-14-46-09.png
#Post#: 116087--------------------------------------------------
Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: tincombe
Date: April 16, 2026, 12:35 pm
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I am just going to go ahead and pay the £30(ish) fine as
appealing it seems less straight forward than I had anticipated
How so? Your first post stated that you were parked on private
land.
stamfordman's map seems to confirms this.
So, what's less straightforward?
Anyway, it's your choice.
We can't look at the traffic order because the Tribunal's
website states:
West Northamptonshire have not currently submitted any TROs.
#Post#: 116091--------------------------------------------------
Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: Clarabell
Date: April 16, 2026, 1:30 pm
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Hi. The map from stamfordman came after me saying I that I
think?. I am really grateful for the help and advice. Do we
think it is worth appealing then? My thinking earlier about it
being more complex was that it seemed like I would need to prove
it is private land as the road has been painted with yellow
lines by the council which may be a mistake by contractors but
perhaps the landowners gave permission for that? I wouldn't know
how to go about fighting that? What do people think...worth
fighting it?? 🤔
#Post#: 116171--------------------------------------------------
Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 17, 2026, 8:11 am
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The highway adoption map looks to me like all of the Nurseries
is council - where were you as per that map?
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Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: catnip
Date: April 17, 2026, 12:09 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> The highway adoption map looks to me like all of the Nurseries
is council - where were you as per that map?
>
--- End Quote ---
The photos are on post 6. They were parked in the turning area
which looks to be unadopted according to the map.
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Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: Clarabell
Date: April 17, 2026, 1:08 pm
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Hi everyone. The land is 100% owned by the hospital (which has
been there for well iver 100 years). They tried to sell it a few
years ago, I got intouch with the agents and they confirmed it
did not sell. There are also photographs on Google maps from
2009 that show the boundary the hospital had a fence up on both
sides of the road, but it has since blown down. Despite this,how
could I prove that the yellow lines may have been painted in
error (possibly decades ago)??
#Post#: 116201--------------------------------------------------
Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: Clarabell
Date: April 17, 2026, 1:10 pm
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Re: West Northamptonshire Council, code 01 parked in restricted
st during prescribed hrs, The Nurseries
DIR By: Clarabell
Date: April 18, 2026, 4:23 am
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[img]
HTML https://imgpile.com/p/MK4f3al#ladupJH[/img]
[img]
HTML https://imgpile.com/m/leJnN2P[/img]
Here is a picture of the for sale board (I think it was in
2024?) and the Google maps images from 2009 showing the fence
the hospital had up at that time marking their boundary.
But, I am throwing in the towel and paying.
It turns out I had submitted the appeal without realising it! I
started to fill in the appeal on the website the same night my
son sent me the link to this forum. I came out of the appeal
website without uploading any photos or evidence and without
realising that somehow it was submitted along the way. I
honestly do not recall clicking anything that said 'submit' I
just thought I was part way through and had come out before
uploading photos and submitting it.
Anyway we are where we are. They have rejected the appeal
restating that car is parked on a yellow line and that there are
signs up stating the restrictions. I simply do not have it in me
to try and find out if the lines were painted in error decades
ago. I am simply going to pay the fine and be done with it.
Thank you all for your help, you do an amazing job helping
people.
Here is the email letter they sent:
TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT ACT 2004 PENALTY CHARGE NOTICE (PCN) No:
NP86934284 DATE ISSUED: 07/04/2026 LOCATION OF CONTRAVENTION:
THE NURSERIES, NORTHAMPTON Thank you for your recent
correspondence regarding the above PCN. I note from our records
that your vehicle was issued with the above notice as it was
parked on a single yellow line during restricted hours.
I can confirm that the Civil Enforcement Officer’s notes
first record your vehicle at 14:51 and again at 14:57. A
discretionary observation period was therefore allowed to
ascertain whether loading or unloading was taking place and as
no activity was observed at your vehicle during this time the
PCN was correctly issued. For future information, a single
yellow line indicates that a waiting restriction applies between
the hours stated on the time-plate, which is located nearby. A
vehicle may park unrestricted on single yellow lines outside the
stated hours The claim that this section of road is
privately owned and therefore exempt from enforcement is
not supported by the evidence available. The area in question
is subject to traffic regulation by WNC. The Traffic Regulation
Order mapping extract (NPTON Consolidation Order 2018, Schedule
ET98) confirms that this location is subject to enforceable
waiting restrictions. The inclusion of this location within the
Order demonstrates that it forms part of the highway network to
which WNC enforcement powers apply.
Furthermore, the restriction is clearly indicated by the
presence of a single yellow line and an accompanying time plate
displaying the operational hours of restriction. This provides
clear notice to motorists that waiting restrictions are in force
at this location.
As your vehicle was observed parked in this location during
prescribed hours, the PCN was therefore issued correctly and
remains payable. Regrettably, the mitigation you have
provided on this occasion is not sufficient to justify
cancellation of the above notice. I am sorry that I am unable
to offer you a more favourable outcome but trust you can now
understand the reasoning behind my decision. The above PCN
therefore remains due and payable to West
Northamptonshire Council.
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