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#Post#: 115317--------------------------------------------------
Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown by
the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: dk007
Date: April 7, 2026, 7:16 pm
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Hello Experts.
I received this PCN for going straight on the red light while i
was in the lane going to the right. I was in lane that can only
be used to go right and I did not realise it and tried to safely
go straight when it turned green. I did not know that i can get
a PCN for doing this. Please can someone advise if I have any
chances of defending it.
Please find the first page of the PCN , i am not able to find
the paper copy so may not have the second page, would upload if
I find it.
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#Post#: 115397--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: Ex CPS here
Date: April 9, 2026, 12:37 am
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What you are really trying to achieve is cancellation of the PCN
so you pay nothing, because that avoids the £160 charge, the
loss of the discount, and the later enforcement route if it is
ignored. Ealing says you must challenge the PCN first, and if
they reject it the next stage is an appeal to London Tribunals;
if you go that far you are dealing with the full charge, not the
discount.
On what you have shown me, this is not really a red light case.
The notice says 32JD, meaning the council allege you failed to
follow a blue mandatory direction sign and went the wrong way.
If the CCTV shows a clear right-turn-only sign and your car
going straight, the core defence is weak. "I did not realise"
and "I thought going straight was safer" explain the mistake but
usually do not defeat the PCN. The real issue for an
adjudicator, meaning an independent tribunal judge, is whether,
on the balance of probabilities, meaning what is more likely
than not, the council can prove the signed direction was clear
and that your vehicle did not follow it.
Your best point is evidence, not sympathy. Ask immediately for
the full CCTV and check the junction yourself. Was the blue
arrow plainly visible, unobscured and positioned so a driver in
that lane would actually see it? Were the road markings worn,
confusing or inconsistent? Does the video clearly show your
vehicle disobeying the sign, or only part of the manoeuvre? I am
assuming you are also the owner, meaning the person legally
pursued for payment; if you were not the owner, or the vehicle
was sold, hired, taken without consent or the PCN was served
late, the position changes materially.
My candid view is arguable only if the signage or video is
genuinely poor; otherwise prospects are weak. The council's best
answer will be simple: clear sign, clear CCTV, driver error. To
reduce that risk, make a representation, meaning a formal
written challenge, within 28 days, focus on signage, visibility,
lane markings, camera angle and any defect in the PCN, and do
not waste space on not knowing a PCN could be issued. How far
are you willing to push this if the discount is lost, what dated
independent material do you have, and would you accept paying
the discounted amount if the video is plainly against you? The
next milestone is to obtain the video and page 2, then decide
quickly whether there is a real evidence point or whether this
is one to pay at the discount.
#Post#: 115408--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: tincombe
Date: April 9, 2026, 4:04 am
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Please find the first page of the PCN , i am not able to find
the paper copy so may not have the second page, would upload if
I find it.
??
But you have posted a clear photo of the actual PCN!
#Post#: 115410--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: dk007
Date: April 9, 2026, 4:10 am
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Hi, yes, I had taken picture of the first page (not the second
page) before I misplaced it.
#Post#: 115427--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: April 9, 2026, 7:38 am
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We've seen this location several times - my view is that it's
unreasonable to enforce a mandatory turn right unless they put
in a better segregated lane with a clear advance layout as it
just isn't good enough to take the right lane out of moving
across as it stands.
But the tribunal will refuse an appeal on this if I recall past
cases accurately - I'll have a look at latest.
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#Post#: 115490--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: April 9, 2026, 5:49 pm
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This is arguable but probably not for a DIY appellant.
#Post#: 115507--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: tincombe
Date: April 10, 2026, 4:57 am
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If the signage test is 'adequacy', then IMO the OP should
discover the totality of the signage. For example, in addition
to regulatory light signals and traffic signs, GSV also shows a
road marking in the lane as follows:
Diagram 1037.1
Vehicular traffic must turn right
Is there anything on the left-hand side(it's obscured in GSV)?
OP, probably we've all be in your or similar predicament and had
to take a turn or make a manoeuvre we didn't want. C'est la
driving vie.
#Post#: 115774--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: dk007
Date: April 13, 2026, 5:39 pm
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Hi, Thanks for all the replies so far, What do you advise to put
in the representation ? i need to file one soon.
#Post#: 116526--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: dk007
Date: April 21, 2026, 3:52 am
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Hello Experts,
I was wondering if someone could help me draft a representation.
I think it is due by tomorrow or day after.
Thanks
#Post#: 116730--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ealing, Code 32JD, Failing to proceed in the direction shown
by the arrow, Greenford road/The broadw
DIR By: dk007
Date: April 22, 2026, 1:38 pm
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Hello Experts,
Any advice on this one? I think the deadline for filing
representation is today.
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