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#Post#: 115116--------------------------------------------------
How to appeal this 'Not in marked bay' PCN in an SIP car park? -
England
DIR By: sebzapata
Date: April 2, 2026, 11:33 am
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I parked my car in an SIP car park and received a PCN as it was
'Not in marked bay'.
There are no markings on the ground as the gravel has worn away,
so I wasn't aware that there were defined bays.
It turns out that the bays are marked on the fence with white
paint and on a graffitied wall too.
I appealed the PCN directly on the SIP car parks website and it
got rejected meaning the charge has gone from £35 to £60.
Is it worth appealing through the Independent Appeals Service
(IAS)? Or is this a waste of time. If it gets rejected, the
charge will then be £100.
Appealing through IAS is the option given to me in the initial
rejection email.
Please see an image of the car park (after I moved it into the
bay) and the ground to show the lack of visible markings.
HTML https://ibb.co/ynTjqdQP
First half of the PCN
HTML https://ibb.co/m541LQFP
Second half of the PCN
HTML https://ibb.co/C5XpsKfg
First sign in the car park
HTML https://ibb.co/DD5FmNWR
Second sign in the car park
HTML https://ibb.co/MxdypjL6
Thanks
#Post#: 115118--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it worth appealing this 'Not in marked bay' fine in an
SIP car park? - England
DIR By: Sander333
Date: April 2, 2026, 11:38 am
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You will need to post PCN in order for advice to be provided
looking at the photograph there does not appear to be any
markings. Whatever you do you need to see the outcome of your
initial appeal before considering IAS kangaroo appeal..
#Post#: 115119--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it worth appealing this 'Not in marked bay' fine in an
SIP car park? - England
DIR By: sebzapata
Date: April 2, 2026, 11:42 am
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I assume you're reffering to the message in the PCN I receieved.
(Apologies, not had to deal with this before)
It states 'The vehicle was parked in a manner where by the
driver is liable for a parking charge in accordance with the
signage as displayed in the car park'
I'm unsure how to attach images onto a message, but here is the
text shown in the sign at the car park:
SiP
Simple Intelligent Parking
PRIVATE LAND
ENFORCEMENT IN OPERATION 24 HOURS
This site is enforced by SIP Parking Limited
Parking is permitted for:
• Vehicles fully displaying a valid pay and display ticket with
the full and accurate vehicle registration
in the front windscreen, dates, times and vehicle registration
must be clearly visible, or
• Vehicles with an electronic parking session purchased online
in advance of the vehicle being left
unattended, remaining valid for the duration of the vehicle's
stay, or
• Vehicles fully displaying a valid SIP parking permit in the
windscreen or a valid SIP parking permit
registered electronically, applicable to individual bays where
relevant.
Do not park on double and/or single yellow lines, hatched areas,
pavements, grass, roadways or
roundabouts or in a manner which prevents other vehicles from
departing from their parked position.
In addition to the requirements above, where the car park or
road has marked parking bays
then you must also park fully within the confines of a single
marked bay.
Blue badge holders are not exempt from the terms stated above,
as the blue badge
scheme is not applicable on this car park/road.
Tariff signage can be located at the vehicle entrance/exit to
the car park/road.
By parking or remaining at this site otherwise than in
accordance with the above, you, the driver, are
agreeing to the following contractual terms:
You agree to pay a ‘parking charge’ in the sum of £100, to be
paid within 28 days of issue. This is
reduced to £60 if paid within 14 days. Additional reductions may
apply.
You will be liable for additional parking charges for each and
any subsequent 24-hour period (or part
thereof) that the vehicle remains or if it returns at any time.
Where the charge is issued by ANPR the vehicle’s keeper details
may be obtained from the DVLA. Where
a charge is issued to the windscreen, the vehicle’s keeper
details may be obtained from the DVLA if the
charge remains unpaid after 28 days. If the charge becomes
overdue an additional £60 may
be added to the value of the parking charge for which you, the
driver, will be liable. You, the driver, will
also be liable for legal costs incurred if legal proceedings are
required.
Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) may be in use in this
car park. Images may be captured and
retained for the purposes of recovering payment for parking
charges where due.
Retrospective evidence of authority to park will not be
accepted.
IMPORTANT NOTICE
[small print largely unreadable in the image]
For any enquiries please ring during office hours: 0333 999 7575
Out of office hours contact: 0333 999 7575 (option 3)
If not information on how you can pay online visit:
www.sipcarparks.com/payment.php
SIP Parking Ltd
[company number appears to be 06752106]
Peter House, Oxford Street, Manchester, M1 5AN
#Post#: 115122--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it worth appealing this 'Not in marked bay' fine in an
SIP car park? - England
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 2, 2026, 11:45 am
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It’s not a “fine”, it’s an invoice for payment under contract
law.
Please read
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/<br
/>which includes links for instructions on how to post images
here.
What was the text of your appeal? You keep saying “I” so did you
identify the driver?
#Post#: 115123--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it worth appealing this 'Not in marked bay' fine in an
SIP car park? - England
DIR By: sebzapata
Date: April 2, 2026, 11:47 am
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Thanks for those instructions.
I'll rewrite the initial post laid out clearer
#Post#: 115124--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it worth appealing this 'Not in marked bay' fine in an
SIP car park? - England
DIR By: sebzapata
Date: April 2, 2026, 12:01 pm
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--- Quote from: jfollows link ---
>
>
> What was the text of your appeal? You keep saying “I” so did
you identify the driver?
>
--- End Quote ---
The text of the appeal was along the lines that the markings on
the ground are missing due to the gravel being worn away and
they are not clearly defined bays.
And I am the driver
#Post#: 115125--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to appeal this 'Not in marked bay' PCN in an SIP car
park? - England
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 2, 2026, 12:03 pm
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You appear to be shooting yourself in the foot with your last
statement.
#Post#: 115126--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to appeal this 'Not in marked bay' PCN in an SIP car
park? - England
DIR By: sebzapata
Date: April 2, 2026, 12:06 pm
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I'm not sure I follow...
#Post#: 115145--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to appeal this 'Not in marked bay' PCN in an SIP car
park? - England
DIR By: InterCity125
Date: April 3, 2026, 2:39 am
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You were asked to provide the text used in the appeal so we can
judge whether the driver was revealed.
It is vital that they do not find out who the driver was - you
are appealing as keeper.
#Post#: 115154--------------------------------------------------
Re: How to appeal this 'Not in marked bay' PCN in an SIP car
park? - England
DIR By: jfollows
Date: April 3, 2026, 5:23 am
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--- Quote from: sebzapata link ---
>
> I'm not sure I follow...
>
--- End Quote ---
Please read the “Read this first” I linked to in Reply #3 again,
it explains this.
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