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TfL - Performing a no right turn - Lewisham Rd/Blackheath Hill
DIR By: nomorebills
Date: March 31, 2026, 2:46 pm
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Hi all,
I have just received a TfL PCN (50r - prohibited right turn) for
turning right from Lewisham Road into northbound Blackheath
Hill.
Typically, motorists are normally permitted to turn right here.
However, on the date in question, all traffic lights at this
crossroad were not functioning. I do not recall seeing any "No
right turn" signage on approach, however, I cannot be 100% sure
as my dashcam footage does not go as far back as the
contravention date.
I should also note that the still images provided by TfL do not
show any no right turn signage as their fixed camera is facing
Blackheath Hill. No video evidence has been supplied.
I have attached images of my PCN and the still images obtained
through the TfL website.
I would be grateful for views on whether I have any solid
grounds for appeal, and if so, how best to frame these
representations.
Many thanks in advance
GSV link:
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#Post#: 114987--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL - Performing a no right turn - Lewisham Rd/Blackheath
Hill
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 31, 2026, 6:57 pm
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Their camera doesn't, as you say, show you passing any No Right
Turn sign, and as this is a signal-controlled junction, such a
sign will, (or should be), on the actual signalhead. Latest GSV
is October 2024, with the single signalhead covered-up. We need
to see what that signal head now has on it. I suspect it has a
NRT sign below the green phase.
HOwever, if you want to get things rolling, submit reps stating
that their photos do not show you passing a No Right Turn sign,
therefore the PCN is void and must be cancelled. Of course they
will reject this, but may reveal something in their reply we can
use against them.
#Post#: 115009--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL - Performing a no right turn - Lewisham Rd/Blackheath
Hill
DIR By: JoCo
Date: April 1, 2026, 5:16 am
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The GSV is old. October 24.
Lewisham Road definitely has a no right turn now.
This was a notoriously dangerous junction for pedestrians &
cycles, crossing the A2.
It has recently (maybe completed 6 months ago) been revamped to
add a pedestrian crossing and ban right turn from Lewisham.
Plan
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The photo that the council provided could not possibly show the
prohibition sign from that angle, as it is before the junction
where the OP turned. Whether that evidence is necessary for the
charge to stick , I leave to others.
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Re: TfL - Performing a no right turn - Lewisham Rd/Blackheath
Hill
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: April 1, 2026, 6:21 am
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So we need to see the current traffic light head. As I said, the
NRT sign should be on that.
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