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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 28, 2023, 9:10 am
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Please do this:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-code-46-parked-on-a-red-route-(loading-box)-or-clearway-egerton-road-n16-par/msg3935/#msg3935
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 7, 2023, 3:26 am
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Outcome
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1C2BSfugY__kdIx-s_9cn1oAETXbJpo0n<br
/>but we expect TFL to seek a review.
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: speedfighter23
Date: September 7, 2023, 6:16 am
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We won!
Thank you so much everyone for the help.
TFL did not even show up, what a joke, they really need to stop
getting away with this.
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 7, 2023, 8:36 am
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They will all follow the panel decision for the time being at
least. Congratulations. But, yet another example of a
voracious and shameless authority attempting to rip off people
who are not so fortunate as to come on here and fight.
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: speedfighter23
Date: September 14, 2023, 6:36 am
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Lol TFL not happy?
Dear Mr XXXXXXX
TfL has sought a review of the decision of the adjudicator in
your case. It has also sought an urgent judicial review of the
leading decision in the High Court.
The Chief Adjudicator has directed that the review application
for your case be suspended until the lead case is heard at the
High Court.
We will contact you again in due course.
Yours sincerely,
Case Management Team
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 14, 2023, 2:54 pm
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Should be an expensive session at The Knights' Templar! I'll be
there.
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 19, 2023, 12:20 pm
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Note to self: CCTV camera is a Predator HD Ultra but TFL has
refused to confirm exactly which one. Internal review due back
on 16 November.
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: February 11, 2025, 7:12 pm
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First instance outcome
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C2BSfugY__kdIx-s_9cn1oAETXbJpo0n/view.
Review outcome
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oAJSt6LPbWRqBiQeW96G-FGVsX-OpGBF/view.
Note: these decisions are historic and are superseded by the
judicial review in Transport for London, R (on the application
of) v London Tribunals (Environment and Traffic Adjudicators)
[2023] EWHC 2889 (Admin)
HTML https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2023/2889.pdf
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 12, 2025, 4:51 am
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AFAIR TFL chap wanted to reopen all the old cases following the
High Court decision. Mr Teper was rightly not impressed.
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: Naomi_Brooks
Date: March 12, 2025, 5:08 am
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This is an old thread, but do the principles still apply?
Thanks
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> Send this:
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> Dear Transport for London,
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> I challenge liability on the basis of a procedural
impropriety, specifically it is unlawful for you to serve a
postal PCN in these circumstances. I refer you to the red route
panel decision in Commercial Plant Services Ltd & others v
Transport for London (2230060716, 25 May 2023) published at
www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/keycases/Red%20Route%20Panel%20Decision.pdf
>
> It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
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> If they reject, I'll sort out the tribunal appeal for you.
>
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