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TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or
clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera operator,
DIR By: speedfighter23
Date: June 26, 2023, 6:33 pm
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Didn't realise you couldn't park at here midnight, I thought
from the sign it was a 7am-7pm no parking.
Can they really just take pictures and send it by post without
ever writing a ticket?
What do you guys think.
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hr0f2W0OYx4RPwRaH4c3Z9eJlsuQUk1B/view?usp=sharing
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: June 27, 2023, 7:30 am
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TFL cannot issue a PCN via CCTV in bays situated on red routes
they must be served by affixing to the vehicle by a CEO see link
HTML http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=150034
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: June 27, 2023, 9:59 am
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Send this:
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Dear Transport for London,
I challenge liability on the basis of a procedural impropriety,
specifically it is unlawful for you to serve a postal PCN in
these circumstances. I refer you to the red route panel decision
in Commercial Plant Services Ltd & others v Transport for London
(2230060716, 25 May 2023) published at
www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/keycases/Red%20Route%20Panel%20Decision.pdf
It follows that the PCN must be cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
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If they reject, I'll sort out the tribunal appeal for you.
#Post#: 553--------------------------------------------------
Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: speedfighter23
Date: June 27, 2023, 10:42 am
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Perfect thanks will let you know what they come back with, they
said 15 days.
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: speedfighter23
Date: August 4, 2023, 9:23 am
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They said no.
'The decision you have quoted is disputed and subject to legal
challenge'
Madness. Didn't they lose their legal challenge as well? I
should go for costs!
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: guest17
Date: August 4, 2023, 12:31 pm
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Copied over from Pepipoo:-
OP----in previous cases TfL have either tried for an adjournment
or asked the appellant to ask the Tribunal for an adjournment.
However in your case they haven't made such a request or asked
you to place your case in abeyance.
You need to read the Decision in this case:-
HTML http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showto...t&p=1787830
So you have been prejudiced by an unlawful demand for money.
The Chief Adjudicator makes it quite plain that TfL cannot act
in this fashion and that appellants cannot be placed in this
prejudicial position.
Submit an appeal to the Tribunal and ask for costs (4 hours at
£19ph should do it). That's just your time and effort in
researching and incidental costs.
Mike
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 5, 2023, 4:29 am
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I think you have standing to oppose the judicial review, but
first you need to appeal the PCN.
For the sake of simplicity, would you like me to represent you
at the tribunal?
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: speedfighter23
Date: August 5, 2023, 6:58 am
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Sure, let me know whatever you need from my end! Thank you so
much.
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 5, 2023, 8:05 am
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I have sent you a PM.
Also, you might want to have a look at this thread:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/tfl-judicial-review-326/
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Re: TfL - Camden - 46 - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route
or clearway), Red route and PCN issued via camera opera
DIR By: speedfighter23
Date: August 6, 2023, 4:57 am
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HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12377011/Sadiq-Khans-TfL-broke-law-using-CCTV-traffic-wardens-fine-drivers-landmark-ruling-motorists-owed-millions-pounds-refunds.html
Nice one!
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