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BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: kimon
Date: March 29, 2026, 4:59 am
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Hello guys, just joined this forum as I have also received a
letter of claim from BW Legal. Last year i overstayed parking by
1hr. This is completely my fault, and got a fine of 60GBP.
However, as i was abroad at the time of the fine issuance, i was
not aware of it. As a result, when I opened the letter from the
post, the penalty had risen to 100GBP. I disputed this and it
was still denied. BW Legal has now sent a letter of claim
threatening CC action. Do i pay the fine or try to dispute based
on the below email example (" insufficient detail of the claim
and fails to provide copies of evidence your client places
reliance upon and thus is in complete contravention of the
Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims...")?
I am in England, and the "driver" has not been named.
Thanks
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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: Dave65
Date: March 29, 2026, 5:15 am
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Can you post up a copy of the original PPN with personal details
redacted but leave dates (both sides)?
Also, a copy of the LBC.
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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: kimon
Date: March 29, 2026, 5:28 am
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Hello Dave,
Unfortunately I cannot find the original PPN, what are you
trying to confirm - I have the PCN ref so I can still access the
pics etc, but cannot upload a screenshot here?
Also can you confirm what LBC is?
Thanks
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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: jfollows
Date: March 29, 2026, 7:48 am
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Letter Before Claim.
Sometimes called
Letter Of Claim.
Same thing.
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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: kimon
Date: March 29, 2026, 7:51 am
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Thanks,
here it is:
HTML https://ibb.co/k693xLpq
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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: jfollows
Date: March 29, 2026, 8:10 am
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The letter should be
--- Quote ---
> (a) the claimant writing to the defendant with concise details
of the claim. The letter should include the basis on which the
claim is made, a summary of the facts, what the claimant wants
from the defendant, and if money, how the amount is calculated;
--- End Quote ---
but instead it’s rubbish - “you owe £170”.
Your response should be
--- Quote ---
> The reply should include confirmation as to whether the claim
is accepted and, if it is not accepted, the reasons why,
together with an explanation as to which facts and parts of the
claim are disputed
--- End Quote ---
, see
HTML https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/pd_pre-action_conduct
Essentially, as you suggest, you can’t supply a reasonable
response to their letter.
In your response you should include something that says you will
bring their pathetic failure to the attention of the court, if
they continue to pursue their claim.
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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: kimon
Date: March 29, 2026, 9:55 am
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thank you very much for this. is there perhaps a standard email
format for this type of response I can get inspiration from?
HTML https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/pd_pre-action_conduct<br
/>or do i just take the wording here, and tweak it to my case?
appreciate the help :)
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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: jfollows
Date: March 29, 2026, 10:04 am
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I suggest you write your own response and post it here for
comment before submitting it.
You may find inspiration by searching the forum also.
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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: kimon
Date: March 29, 2026, 10:10 am
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How is this? AI helped ;D
Subject: Response to Letter of Claim – Ref: X0932074 / PCN
6981720
Dear Sir/Madam,
I write in response to your Letter of Claim dated 23 March 2026.
1. Position on the claim
I do not accept your client’s claim.
2. Basis of dispute
The claim is denied in its entirety. My position is as follows:
(a) No keeper liability established
I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I was not the driver
at the time of the alleged contravention, and the driver has not
been identified.
As a matter of law, liability for a private parking charge rests
with the driver unless the strict provisions of Schedule 4 of
the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (“PoFA”) are fully complied
with. (Lawble - Law Makes Sense)
Your client is put to strict proof that:
* A fully compliant Notice to Keeper was served; and
* All mandatory requirements of PoFA Schedule 4 were strictly
adhered to.
It is well established that failure to comply with PoFA prevents
any transfer of liability to the keeper.
(knowyourparkingrights.org)
In the absence of such compliance, only the driver can be
pursued. You have provided no evidence as to the identity of the
driver, and I am under no legal obligation to name the driver.
(ftla.uk)
Accordingly, your client has no lawful basis to pursue me as
keeper.
(b) Strict proof required
Your Letter of Claim fails to provide sufficient detail as
required under the Practice Direction – Pre-Action Conduct and
Protocols. In particular, you have failed to provide:
* Evidence of the alleged contractual agreement
* Evidence of signage forming the alleged contract
* Evidence of PoFA compliance (including dates of issue/service
of notices)
* Evidence of the driver’s identity (if alleged)
* A breakdown and legal basis for the additional sums added
Until such documents are produced, I am unable to properly
understand or respond to your client’s claim.
(c) Failure to follow Pre-Action Protocol
Your correspondence appears to be a standard template and does
not comply with the spirit or requirements of the Pre-Action
Protocol, which requires parties to exchange sufficient
information to understand each other's position and attempt to
resolve matters without litigation.
3. Required action
In accordance with the Practice Direction, I require that you:
1. Provide all documents and evidence relied upon (as outlined
above);
2. Confirm whether your client is relying on PoFA 2012 and, if
so, demonstrate full compliance;
3. Confirm the cause of action (breach of contract, contractual
charge, or trespass);
4. Provide a detailed breakdown of the sum claimed and
justification for any additional costs.
4. Conduct warning
Should you proceed with litigation without addressing the
deficiencies outlined above, I will draw your conduct and your
client’s conduct to the attention of the Court, including your
failure to comply with the Pre-Action Protocol.
I will also seek to rely on this correspondence when the Court
considers the issue of costs.
5. Conclusion
For the avoidance of doubt, I deny any liability to your client
and will robustly defend any proceedings issued.
I look forward to your substantive response.
Yours faithfully,

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Re: BW LEGAL - LETTER OF CLAIMS
DIR By: jfollows
Date: March 29, 2026, 10:13 am
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There’s nothing in there about their incompetent Letter of
Claim, is there? Or at least the point needs amplifying.
Your audience in part is the court when they initiate a claim
against you in due course.
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