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       NIP For Dangerous driving
   DIR By: JeremyfragranceNOT
       Date: March 23, 2026, 5:10 am
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       I have received a NIP for dangerous driving in which I am
       required to name the driver first. I believe I was caught
       stupidly racing another/mutliple car(s) on a 40 road possible at
       speeds of 90/100~ this was at at night in a dual carriageway
       with road about at both sides and not busy. I fully regret my
       actions they were stupid and I don’t realise how serious it it.
       I believe it was an undercover officer or road camera I did not
       see either so I’m not sure exactly what it was or how I’ve been
       caught. My question is what do I do now and what should I
       expect? Is it possible it would be reduced or am I facing a
       minimum of 12 month ban? I need my car for work and quite
       frankly my life will fall apart without it. I didn’t think 1
       thing could change that. I have no points however I do have a
       Section 59 which was for something small and stupid.
       #Post#: 114084--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP For Dangerous driving
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: March 23, 2026, 7:00 am
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       S. 172 RTA 1988 is the only exception to the privilege against
       self incrimination in Western Europe. You either name the
       driver, which in your case would constitute a partial confession
       (admissible as evidence that you were the driver), or you get 6
       points and a Band B fine (capped at £1000, plus 40% surcharge,
       plus prosecution costs).
       Without a confession to being the driver, the prosecution would
       need to prove who was driving some other way. For routine
       speeding cases, they wouldn't even consider attempting to do
       that. For dangerous driving, they are more likely to try to
       obtain some evidence, but it is far from certain that they would
       be able to prove that you were driving on that occasion.
       N.B. we cannot advise you to break the law, but we can tell you
       what the consequences of doing so are likely to be.
       #Post#: 114146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP For Dangerous driving
   DIR By: JeremyfragranceNOT
       Date: March 23, 2026, 2:03 pm
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       I noticed that in the NIP letter they have not signed it or put
       a reference does this invalidate? It?
       #Post#: 114148--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP For Dangerous driving
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: March 23, 2026, 2:28 pm
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