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Re: SJPN - 2 offences "laid in the alternative"
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: May 13, 2026, 11:47 am
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I’m afraid this demonstrates why these online gizmos do not
always fit the bill.
Before I saw the inline system I always advised to contact the
court and simply ask to have he case opened under s142 of the
MCA, and then explain why. If I was me I would still do that.
However, if you want to continue with the online system. I’ve
numbered he questions for convenience:
1.So for “did you make a plea for the original offence” there’s
two options. “yes, I made a plea but I think the decision was
unfair/the judges failed to consider my circumstances or all the
evidence available” the other option is “no, i didn’t know about
the original hearing or was unable to make a plea” is the “no”
option the better one considering my situation?
Answer 1: “yes, I made a plea but I think the decision was
unfair/the judges failed to consider my circumstances or all the
evidence available”
2. If I click yes for the above, the follow up question is “did
you get the chance to give an explanation of the offence to the
court”
Do I pick “yes- but I want to appeal the decision made” or “no-
I was not able to speak or write to the court”. To avoid
choosing the option with the word appeal in it, I was going pick
no.
Answer 2: “yes- but I want to appeal the decision made”
(I wouldn’t worry about using the word ”appeal”. They brought it
up, not you).
3. If I pick no for that first question, then it takes me
straight to a new question “do you think the court decision was
unfair. Do you want your case to be reopened” to which I want to
click yes.
Answer 3: “Yes”
(you do want the case reopened)
4.The next bit: “are you challenging the court finding that you
are guilty or the outcome (sentence) of the original hearing. Or
both”. Bit clueless which to pick here.
Answer 4: Both
(You have been convicted of a charge which you were told would
be discontinued and suffered a harsher penalty as a result)
Then make it absolutely clear in your additional information
that you do not want to appeal to the Crown Court but want the
case reopened under s142 because the court either did not
receive or did not act upon your pleas. Mention that you were
assured that the offences were laid in the alernative.(I assume
that you are confident you did plead guilty to speeding and NG
to FP).
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Re: SJPN - 2 offences "laid in the alternative"
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: May 13, 2026, 12:51 pm
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Which Midvale graduate came up with the phrase "make a plea"?
I would argue that making a plea means the same as entering a
plea - purposively, if the court variously did not receive or
did not enter the plea, it was not "made" - to the extent that
the word has any meaning in this context.
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