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#Post#: 113773--------------------------------------------------
MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: nashbomb
Date: March 19, 2026, 4:55 pm
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Hello,
I got a speeding ticket in May 2025 that I didn't receive due to
it going to my old address (S21 from this address and moved out
in July 2024, homeless ever since) and me being homeless
sofa-surfing on friends/family's couches and living in my car.
It went to a MS90 in June 2025 and I still didn't receive
letters. September 2025 I updated my address to my mum's house
but stopped regularly staying there in November 2025 as she put
the house up for sale. The court said that they sent a letter in
Nov 2025 alerting me of my court date but I didn't receive this
either and I don't know what address it went to. Court heard the
case on 27th February 2026 and because the convictions were
within my first two years of driving, the 6 points have caused
me to have my license revoked.
I am trying to lodge an appeal because having my license revoked
means I can't get to work and I am still homeless now so will
struggle for places to sleep. I registered with Jigsaw Homes in
March 2025 and actually registered with the council as homeless
in Dec 2025/Jan 2026.
I don't know whether it is best to do the video call to court
option or the statutory declaration statement. Or what to say on
either.
Please help. Thank you in advance
#Post#: 113775--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: March 19, 2026, 6:05 pm
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How and when did you become aware of the court hearing and/or
revocation? What have you done since becoming aware?
N.B. We have a fairly good understanding of criminal road
traffic law here. Speaking for myself, I have no idea what S21
means (other than a reference to section 21 of some Act of
Parliament or other?). Nor what this "the video call to court
option" is.
#Post#: 113776--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: nashbomb
Date: March 19, 2026, 6:08 pm
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Thank you for your reply. I became aware on Monday 16th, this
day I called DVLA, the court it was heard at and they passed me
SJS’s number but their line was closed so I called them on the
Tuesday first thing in the AM.
The S21 is in relation to the housing, meaning I had no choice
but to move out of the rented property within 2 months.
Thanks!
#Post#: 113778--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: nashbomb
Date: March 19, 2026, 6:10 pm
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Sorry I became aware because my mum picked up some letters from
the house she was selling after the sale fell through and it was
with those. But obviously I didn’t open it until 17 days after
the court date.
The link that the court sent me it gives me 5 options, they said
to ignore the first 3 but the other two are either a video call
or a statement
#Post#: 113783--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: March 19, 2026, 7:00 pm
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Looking at the dates, and ignoring much of what you have written
to make sense of those dates (because what you have written is
Grade A hogwash), we can conclude (for the sake of the sanity of
anyone else trying to help) that -
May 2025 - either alleged speeding offence occurred, or NIP
issued. Or both, but either way, that "speeding ticket" the OP
received then was never received as he no longer had access to
the address on the V5C.
June 2025 - offence contrary to s. 172(3) RTA 1988 was deemed to
have been committed when no response to the requirement in the
NIP to name the driver was received at the expiration of the 28
days beginning with the date of deemed service.
November 2025 (probably) - most likely an SJPN - either for the
s. 172 only, or for both the s. 172 and speeding was issued, and
not received.
27th February 2026 - for reasons not entirely obvious, rather
than the SJ simply deciding the case on the papers as no plea
had been entered, a court hearing was held to try the
information. Notice of court hearing date possibly sent in
November 2025. OP convcited of s. 172 offence - 6 points, MS90
endorsement code.
DVLA endorses OP's driver record and issues notice of
revocation.
Monday 16th (presumably March 2026), OP received notice of
revocation from the DVLA, given notice of date of licence
revocation. OP phones the DVLA. OP calls the Service Justice
System???? Tuesday 17th (also presumably March 2026). No idea
what was said.
On the assumption that you first became aware of the court
proceedings on Monday 16th March, you effectively have 4 options
-
make a statutory declaration within 21 days of becoming aware of
the proceedings and have the conviction quashed under s. 14 MCA
1980 (why you were unaware is irrelevant to the process) - if
made within 21 days, the court have to do this,
request that the court re-open the case under s. 142 MCA 1980 in
the interests of justice (don't do this - it is at the court's
discretion),
appeal to the Crown Court (again don't do this - costs can be
higher, and more importantly this would be your second bite at
the cherry, quashing and having the case reheard in the
Magistrates would be the first bite (a second time), still
leaving the option of an appeal to the Crown Court open, or
do nothing - depending on what offences you were charged with,
and the viability of any defences at a re-hearing, and numerous
other things we have not been told, it is not always worth
going through the process if the outcome is likely to be
substantially the same.
Please do not use jargon and/or abbreviation unless you are sure
that both you and we understand their meaning.
Also understand that you are facing a serious issue, and that we
have better things to do with our time than pulling teeth and
trying to distill meaningful information from gibberish.
#Post#: 113784--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: March 19, 2026, 7:01 pm
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--- Quote from: nashbomb link ---
>
> The link that the court sent me it gives me 5 options, they
said to ignore the first 3 but the other two are either a video
call or a statement
>
--- End Quote ---
That clarifies absolutely nothing!
#Post#: 113808--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: nashbomb
Date: March 20, 2026, 5:49 am
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Okay thank you, so how do I make a statutory declaration under
s14 MCA 1980? And is there anything particularly I need to write
in it?
Thank you again for your help
#Post#: 113813--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: ManxTom
Date: March 20, 2026, 6:15 am
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It tells you how under the heading "Important topics" at the top
of this board
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/statutory-declarations-for-proceedings-you-weren't-aware-of/
[Edit: Although I'm not sure that the link given at the end of
that post is the easiest one to find a copy of a statutory
declaration form. This might be a better one under the
sub-heading "If you did not know about your case"?
HTML https://www.gov.uk/appeal-magistrates-court-decision/if-you-did-not-know-about-your-case
See what others more expert than I am advise
Note - although that page appears to be talking about appealing
a magistrates decision you aren't really appealing anything.
you are just making a statutory declaration that you did not
know about the proceedings against you]
[mod edit: Link in sticky had expired - the URL referred to a
form, the link went to a general landing page. Link replaced
with the one suggested by my learned friend. N.B. This is a link
to a page with advice/instructions and a clear link to the
appropriate form, rather than directly to the form itself. Also,
sticky not written by me - the clue is that it does not say that
if the link is dead, pretend that you're a grown up and try
googling it.]
#Post#: 113822--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: March 20, 2026, 7:13 am
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--- Quote from: nashbomb link ---
>
> Okay thank you, so how do I make a statutory declaration under
s14 MCA 1980? And is there anything particularly I need to write
in it?
>
--- End Quote ---
The first step is generally to contact the court. You have done
this already, and they gave you 5 options. Logically, it seems
probable that one or more of those options might be appropriate
for making a statutory declaration. Or not. Who knows? Who
cares?
#Post#: 113831--------------------------------------------------
Re: MS90 conviction, revoked license - appeal help
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: March 20, 2026, 8:13 am
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When making your enquiries it might be worthwhile finding out
whether you were charged with speeding as well.
From what you have told us, you have no realistic defence to the
charge of “Failing to Provide Driver’s Details” (FtP) which led
to your MS90 endorsement and six points. Having that matter
reheard will almost certainly see you convicted again.
If you were charged with speeding as well, there is a
possibility you can get the prosecutor to drop the more serious
charge in return for a guilty plea to the speeding offence. If
not, the only advantage to seeing the FtP charge reheard is if
you were fined a sum that was excessive compared to your means.
The offence carries six points and the court cannot impose
fewer. As well as that, the court has no discretion over the
revocation of your licence. The DVLA has a legal duty to do that
when they learn of your six points.
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