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       #Post#: 113256--------------------------------------------------
       TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of Enfor
       cement)
       By: harbmeister43 Date: March 14, 2026, 11:29 am
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       Hello All,
       Today 14/3 we received a Notice of Enforcement dated 9/3/26,
       addressed to my daughter (who happens to be staying here/up
       north for the weekend).
       The contravention was Blackwall Tunnel on 15/9/25.
       Until the end of August my daughter resided in Brixton. She then
       moved to Notts. She changed the address on her V5 on 25/9/25 to
       my house/parents & on her Driving Licence at the same time. She
       changed She did not set up any mail forwarding.
       This is the very first she has learned of the contravention.
       Long story but she was ill last year / had no focus / has
       letters of admission to Hospital and appointments with
       specialists and clinics - and can't recollect the occasion but
       it is not disputed that it occurred.
       There is little time to decide what to do - but we'd like advice
       on the best immediate option.
       Thanks in advance. PCN (with redactions) uploaded.
       Harbmeister43.
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       #Post#: 113258--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: stamfordman Date: March 14, 2026, 11:35 am
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       Our usual advice is to pay it before you get a bailiff visit as
       that adds £235.
       This doesn't affect your right to file an out of time
       declaration which should succeed if worded correctly as there is
       such a short time between the contravention and logbook change.
       Date of last V5C (logbook) issued
       Or filing the out of time should also pause bailiff enforcement
       I think.
       #Post#: 113259--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: harbmeister43 Date: March 14, 2026, 11:46 am
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       Thanks for the lightening response, Stamfordman, it's much
       appreciated.
       I must admit if there's a sure way not to pay until any appeal
       is dismissed I'd prefer that - but if there's any doubt then
       would go for the safer option.
       Presumably the NoE seeks the address of the Licence Holder (or
       re-extracts the address for the V5) - but I don't see why the
       warrant wouldn't have come the same address (being used now).
       #Post#: 113278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: tincombe Date: March 14, 2026, 3:39 pm
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       I must admit if there's a sure way not to pay until any appeal
       is dismissed I'd prefer that
       IMO, there isn't.
       The person named in the NoE needs to submit an Out of Time
       application to the Traffic Enforcement Centre which, when
       registered, halts the enforcement process. Their problem is that
       registration could take weeks and is something over which the
       person has NO control.
       IMO, as already posted paying now is the least worst option.
       After this we can look at constructing as compelling an OOT as
       possible. We'll need to know when she vacated the V5C address
       and whether this move was direct or whether perhaps there was a
       hiatus and they stayed elsewhere before moving into their new
       V5C address. But pl don't let this distract her from paying.
       If TEC accept the submission then ALL monies are to be returned
       and her maximum liability reset at the discounted
       penalty(because her grounds for the OOT would be that she did
       not receive the PCN).
       #Post#: 113318--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: Neil B Date: March 15, 2026, 9:14 am
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       As others I also recommend you pay to avoid the additional £235
       cherge.
       And make your application to TEC asap, explaining that the V5
       was updated promptly.
       I don't see any need to mention illness in this case but if you
       choose to, keep it short so as notn to distract from the main
       facts.
       Post an draft of your application here first if you want.
       [quote author=harbmeister43 link=topic=10239.msg113259#msg113259
       date=1773506789]
       but I don't see why the warrant wouldn't have  come the same
       address (being used now).
       [/quote]
       There is no physical warrant. All subsequent notices after the
       PCN will have been sent to the address on the V5 when TfL first
       applied for it from DVLA.
       They don't and cant make repeated checks.
       #Post#: 113321--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: Neil B Date: March 15, 2026, 9:22 am
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       It might help you to note that the original PCN was only sent
       20th September at the earliest; being listed as 'batched' on
       that day, in the case history.
       #Post#: 113799--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: harbmeister43 Date: March 20, 2026, 3:42 am
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       Thanks all for the guidance so far. The fine is paid.
       I now want to embark on making the application to get it
       refunded.
       Can I ask if there is a template to begin this ... or an
       exemplar I should use?
       I have experience on the PCN side of things (and how I came to
       be pointed here).
       Also confirming all-important dates.
       Moved out 17/8/25
       Date of contravention 15/09/25
       Date CoA submitted 25/09/25
       Someone asked if she moved elsewhere temporarily - she moved
       from her London address to Notts - that residence wasn't an
       official let it was with friends.
       Can I also ask if it is also pertinent that she was quite ill
       during this period? She was suffering with a serious eating
       disorder [for which she spent time in Hospital]. This would
       account for the delay in making the address change + her not
       setting up any mail forwarding + probably her forgetting to pay
       the toll in the first place ...
       .. or ... it doesn't make any difference and I stick to the
       facts?
       #Post#: 113804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: tincombe Date: March 20, 2026, 5:16 am
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       25 Sept. 2025 is Date last V5C issued.
       I suppose it could also be the date the change was submitted to
       DVLA ('Date CoA submitted') if this was done online.
       Any lead-in time regarding submission could only strengthen your
       case, so pl advise how the application was submitted.
       #Post#: 113825--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: harbmeister43 Date: March 20, 2026, 7:43 am
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       Thanks.
       Theapplication to change address was submitted online 25/09.
       Standard email response was received to say updated documents
       would take 7 to 10 days.
       Also at the same time application to change licence address was
       submitted.
       #Post#: 113828--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL - Code 17 - A102 Blackwall Tunnel - BAILIFF (Notice of E
       nforcement)
       By: tincombe Date: March 20, 2026, 8:02 am
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       I don't know whether knowing more about the move would add
       weight to a simple submission of the facts e.g. there's no point
       updating a V5C until one's in position to receive mail at the
       new address etc.
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