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       Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle observed,
       had paid by phone within 3 mins
   DIR By: ldabbs
       Date: March 12, 2026, 11:58 am
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       Hello,
       I received a birthday present of a PCN on my car in the
       notorious London Borough of Lambeth yesterday. £160, £80 if I
       pay in 14 days.
       I'd like to challenge it as I paid for parking from 3 mins after
       the vehicle was first observed.
       Context:
       There is a CPZ operating 12-2pm Monday to Friday, this happened
       on Wednesday 11th March within this time, so the CPZ was
       operational and I was parked where they say I was.
       My issue is the timings and what is a reasonable amount of time
       to navigate an online payment system and poor phone reception
       locally to get the digital parking session paid for and live.
       The PCN states car initially observed in pay and display bay at
       12.19pm and PCN was then issued at 12.21pm, meanwhile I have a
       receipt from Pay By Phone showing I paid for parking that went
       through and started at 12.22pm.
       I've linked a google drive with the parking receipt.
       Is it worth me challenging?
       Many thanks,
       Liane
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       Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle
       observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 12, 2026, 12:10 pm
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       Yers but where were you when you made payment. Walking away from
       the car often means we see this situation.
       #Post#: 113051--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle
       observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 12, 2026, 2:33 pm
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       +1
       Too many people walk away from the car when using a PbP app to
       pay for their parking, so a CEO turns up, sees no parking
       session on his HH terminal so serves a PCN. Meanwhile the
       session is set-up whist he's doing this. From what you have said
       you have a reasonable hope of success at London Tribunals.I say
       this because all London councils are now getting such huge
       revenues for parking penalties, (like over £700 million !!),
       they now just refuse ALL reps knowing most people, (like >95%),
       then just cough-up not knowing the law and fearful they'll get
       walloped for undreds of pound. Also  not everybody knows that
       there is this forum to get advice from. So the only place you'll
       get a reasonably unbiased judgement on your case is London
       Tribunals.
       Looking at your timings, I think you have a reasonable case, but
       there is no guarantee you'll win at LT. Best thing to do now is
       to submit representations on the basis that you were engaged in
       paying to park when the CEO served the PCN. State that you had
       to move away from the car to get a good signal and say that the
       fact that the parking commenced only one minute after the PCN
       was served shows that you were engaged in making the payment at
       the time the CEO served the PCN.
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       Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle
       observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
   DIR By: ldabbs
       Date: March 16, 2026, 9:06 am
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       Thanks very much for the replies. Will try challenging it in
       this way
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       Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle
       observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 16, 2026, 2:24 pm
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       Post a draft here.
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       Re: Lambeth Council PCN issued within 2 mins of vehicle
       observed, had paid by phone within 3 mins
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: March 16, 2026, 5:44 pm
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       And screenshot the website page re payment dates and how much.
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