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Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: gbu
Date: March 12, 2026, 11:35 am
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My son was dropping of his mum and stopped on double yellow
lines (no kerb markings) she is disabled so has a blue badge and
he put this on the dashboard as normal.
He helped her out of the car and was just bout to drive away
when a traffic warden printed out a ticket and gave to him.
He explained to the warden the badge and situation but was told
nothing he can do so my son drove off.
My son appealed but was not found in his favour so has been told
must pay the PCN
There's no photo evidence of him on the double yellow, no photos
of the badge either just a picture of him driving away.
Yet the authority says that pictures are only secondary evidence
and the observations of the warden are primary, so basically
they take his/her word that you have committed the offence!
Is there any further appeal than can be made at all please?
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 12, 2026, 11:55 am
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Pictures aren't needed to enforce parking contraventions and the
CEO obviously couldn't take pics of the PCN served as your son
drove away but it was served to him.
But assisted alighting of a disabled person is a solid exemption
and you also say the BB was displayed.
How long did it take to go to the church and back? In any case
an adjudicator would probably side with you on the BB display.
Did you enclose a copy of the BB with the challenge?
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: gbu
Date: March 12, 2026, 11:58 am
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Thanks for you fast reply.
He was no more then 2-3 minutes to drop her off. (observed as 3
minutes on the ticket)
No he didn’t upload pictures of the BB, should he send them now?
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: gbu
Date: March 12, 2026, 12:00 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
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> Pictures aren't needed to enforce parking contraventions and
the CEO obviously couldn't take pics of the PCN served as your
son drove away but it was served to him.
>
--- End Quote ---
Shouldn’t the CEO of taken the pictures first though before
issuing the ticket rather than wait till after?
Doesn’t this lead to these sort of appeals as a CEO could for
arguments sake just take a dislike to a driver and issue a PCN
if they didn’t have to show photographic evidence as proof?
Thanks for you fast reply.
He was no more then 2-3 minutes to drop her off. (observed as 3
minutes on the ticket)
No he didn’t upload pictures of the BB, should he send them now?
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 12, 2026, 12:08 pm
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CEOs usually take a picture to show the PCN was served on the
vehicle to avoid disputes about service.
You can try going back to them saying the the BB was on display
and enclosing it, and in any case you are also claiming the
assisted alighting exemption.
They may not respond - you have the next stage to make formal
representations. I can't see you losing this.
Is the car logbook up to date with correct name and address?
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: gbu
Date: March 12, 2026, 12:13 pm
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Ah ok thank you.
Will send the pictures of BB and yes the logbook name and
address are up to date.
Thank you for your advice, ill post back if successful or not.
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: lexy
Date: March 12, 2026, 1:46 pm
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"Assisted boarding and alighting" is allowed on double yellow
lines. You don't need to display or even own a blue badge to use
it. Anyone can stop on yellow lines to help their granny /
disabled friend / young child into a building.
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 12, 2026, 2:44 pm
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This PCN shows the venality, rapacity and greed of this council,
(no surprise there !!). As 'stamfordman' says, I don't see how
you can lose this one, but you have to stand your ground. This
means waiting for the Notice to Owner, submitting the reps
again, and then, when rejected again, register an appeal at
London Tribunals. Of course this means foregoing the discount
option.
Question - Whose name and address is on the V5C Registration
Certificate ? The NtO will be sent to those details.
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: gbu
Date: March 12, 2026, 6:07 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> This PCN shows the venality, rapacity and greed of this
council, (no surprise there !!). As 'stamfordman' says, I don't
see how you can lose this one, but you have to stand your
ground. This means waiting for the Notice to Owner, submitting
the reps again, and then, when rejected again, register an
appeal at London Tribunals. Of course this means foregoing the
discount option.
>
> Question - Whose name and address is on the V5C Registration
Certificate ? The NtO will be sent to those details.
>
--- End Quote ---
My sons name and address is on the V5
I just think its crazy a ticket can be issued without them
having photographic evidence of you parking illegally with no
permit or BB etc
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Re: Camden 01- PCN but no photo evidence
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 12, 2026, 7:18 pm
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So as your son is on the V5C, the Notice to Owner will be sent
to him, and he has legal responsibility for paying or appealing.
He can authorise you to act for him when submitting
representations, and when appealing to London Tribunals, but if
the case is lost, he is responsible for payment.
Is the V5C up-to-date ?
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