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#Post#: 13733--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 13, 2024, 2:30 pm
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> Please see the draft appeal here (link below) which combines
the strategy from both [member=1]cp8759[/member] and
[member=7]mrmustard[/member]. Kindly let me know any feedback.
Commenting privileges are enabled in the document.
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> Appeal Draft
HTML https://docs.google.com/document/d/11O5TkJLfha7VC6VpjR1KLR0nCCI_qU-hR0RxyU7xVoE/edit?usp=sharing
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Needs to be tidied up. But the basic points are there.
#Post#: 13776--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: flash2005
Date: January 15, 2024, 4:58 am
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> [quote author=flash2005 link=topic=1020.msg13723#msg13723
date=1705172663]
> Please see the draft appeal here (link below) which combines
the strategy from both [member=1]cp8759[/member] and
[member=7]mrmustard[/member]. Kindly let me know any feedback.
Commenting privileges are enabled in the document.
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> Appeal Draft
HTML https://docs.google.com/document/d/11O5TkJLfha7VC6VpjR1KLR0nCCI_qU-hR0RxyU7xVoE/edit?usp=sharing
>
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Needs to be tidied up. But the basic points are there.
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Many thanks.
Can you suggest what tidying up is required, as I have tried to
do the best possible draft. If you need edit access please
click on the button in google docs.
#Post#: 13803--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: January 15, 2024, 11:10 am
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I would not deploy the link tactic at this stage: it's warning
them that they have a problem and they can fix it by opening the
link. A failure to consider at the informal stage has very
little weight, you really need them to fail to open the link now
when they consider your challenge to the notice to owner. You
would then deploy the click statistics at the tribunal stage,
when it's too late for the council to go back and remedy their
error.
On the second ground (date of service vs date of contravention),
there are these three cases you can cite:
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RJouvEIzKoxr0VLtZ6EnMSiquc3Y9QMT/view
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qjkKYJxAHhFvrWhpwTqGwhrUfa-pD5Sv/view
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HLgXkoFeKSPDT1k09A_jPyaybFvP98ac/view
I would quote them by only giving the names of the parties, to
Richard Weisz v London Borough of Barnet, Malcolm Newman v
London Borough of Hounslow and Branislav Baca v Portsmouth City
Council, that way they're far less likely to claim they looked
them up in the register (and the last one can't be looked up
anyway).
You then have multiple links and to prove they've considered the
representations as required by law they would have to open all
four, which they're unlikely to do.
I've also added a few comments to the google doc.
#Post#: 13805--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: flash2005
Date: January 15, 2024, 11:32 am
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> I would not deploy the link tactic at this stage: it's warning
them that they have a problem and they can fix it by opening the
link. A failure to consider at the informal stage has very
little weight, you really need them to fail to open the link now
when they consider your challenge to the notice to owner. You
would then deploy the click statistics at the tribunal stage,
when it's too late for the council to go back and remedy their
error.
>
> On the second ground (date of service vs date of
contravention), there are these three cases you can cite:
>
>
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RJouvEIzKoxr0VLtZ6EnMSiquc3Y9QMT/view
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HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qjkKYJxAHhFvrWhpwTqGwhrUfa-pD5Sv/view
>
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HLgXkoFeKSPDT1k09A_jPyaybFvP98ac/view
>
> I would quote them by only giving the names of the parties, to
Richard Weisz v London Borough of Barnet, Malcolm Newman v
London Borough of Hounslow and Branislav Baca v Portsmouth City
Council, that way they're far less likely to claim they looked
them up in the register (and the last one can't be looked up
anyway).
>
> You then have multiple links and to prove they've considered
the representations as required by law they would have to open
all four, which they're unlikely to do.
>
> I've also added a few comments to the google doc.
>
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I have made the suggested changes in the document. Please let
me know if there is any further feedback. I haven't added the
final links yet to reduce the risk of accidental clicks.
#Post#: 13926--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: flash2005
Date: January 18, 2024, 2:14 am
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Should I submit the appeal now ?
#Post#: 14003--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: flash2005
Date: January 19, 2024, 9:08 am
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[member=1]cp8759[/member] - There is still time available for
the appeal, but I wanted to check if there is any further
feedback ?
#Post#: 14005--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: January 19, 2024, 9:18 am
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I've added one final comment, also please note this is a formal
representation, not an appeal.
#Post#: 14031--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: January 19, 2024, 4:56 pm
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There are good vibes. :)
#Post#: 14065--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: flash2005
Date: January 20, 2024, 10:46 am
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> I've added one final comment, also please note this is a
formal representation, not an appeal.
>
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Many thanks, I have changed the word appeal to formal
representation in the document and also submitted it to the
council now.
I have removed sharing on the draft document so that there is no
risk of anybody clicking the short.io links by mistake.
#Post#: 14406--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge - Stopped in Taxi Rank - George Lane
DIR By: flash2005
Date: January 27, 2024, 9:42 am
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The council has rejected the formal representation. No links
have been clicked either from the first appeal or the second
representation. Please see below
Can I get advice on the next steps please ?
[member=24]Hippocrates[/member], [member=1]cp8759[/member],
[member=7]mrmustard[/member]
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