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PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: Randomomom Date: March 11, 2026, 9:07 am
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The registered keeper has received a PCN for an overstay of 13
minutes. The driver made an honest mistake and got lost on the
way back to the carpark, being unfamiliar with the area. The
period covered is from when the driver entered the car park. The
ticket was purchased 3 minutes later. Is this worth appealing?
Or can you give me any other advice?
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: RichardW Date: March 11, 2026, 9:10 am
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Please post up the PCN the RK has received.
If the total time is 13 min over on ANPR in / out times, then
this should be within the 5 min consideration + 10 min grace
periods.
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: Randomomom Date: March 11, 2026, 9:11 am
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: Randomomom Date: March 11, 2026, 9:17 am
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[quote author=RichardW link=topic=10196.msg112834#msg112834
date=1773238237]
Please post up the PCN the RK has received.
If the total time is 13 min over on ANPR in / out times, then
this should be within the 5 min consideration + 10 min grace
periods.
[/quote]
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: DWMB2 Date: March 11, 2026, 9:26 am
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[quote author=RichardW link=topic=10196.msg112834#msg112834
date=1773238237]
If the total time is 13 min over on ANPR in / out times, then
this should be within the 5 min consideration + 10 min grace
periods.
[/quote]
That's not how they work. The consideration period is the time
in which a driver may consider the terms on offer, and choose to
leave if they so wish. If a driver chooses to park, it doesn't
automatically get added onto the grace period to give you a
total of 15 minutes overstay.
A better argument might be around time taken to pay etc.
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: InterCity125 Date: March 11, 2026, 9:52 am
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Please post up the whole of the PCN showing both sides redacting
ONLY personal info.
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: Randomomom Date: March 11, 2026, 10:03 am
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Sorry, here’s the whole PCN
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: InterCity125 Date: March 11, 2026, 10:09 am
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So, as per normal, The Euro Car Parks NtK is not PoFA complaint
so they cannot transfer liability to the keeper.
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: Randomomom Date: March 11, 2026, 10:29 am
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[quote author=InterCity125 link=topic=10196.msg112846#msg112846
date=1773241791]
So, as per normal, The Euro Car Parks NtK is not PoFA complaint
so they cannot transfer liability to the keeper.
[/quote]
Thank you, could you explain a bit more what that means and what
action the RK should take?
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Re: PCN from Euro Car Parks for Norton Street in Manchester
By: InterCity125 Date: March 11, 2026, 10:34 am
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We can come up with a short and simple appeal to the operator
which will almost certainly be rejected.
We can then make a more substantive appeal to POPLA.
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