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#Post#: 112820--------------------------------------------------
TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: maxxxpayne
Date: March 11, 2026, 8:05 am
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Hi There,
I received a PCN from TfL on the above contravention for parking
in what I'm pretty sure was within dotted lines in what is
normally a red route on Sunday, 01/03/26 at 20:28 on Whitechapel
Street.
I'm very familiar with that route and have parked there on
multiple occasions previously without issues.
Initially, I thought that I received the PCN due to parking at
the wrong time (Red Route operational from 7AM-7PM, Mon-Sat),
but looks like I have been issued one because the claim is I was
not inside the dotted lines - something that I believe was not
the case and not clear from the photos TfL has issued. Here are
the photos from TfL and Street Views.
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One thing I notice is that there are two sets of dotted red
lines, one prominent, the other slightly lighter. Could it be
that they have changed it and I was potentially on the lighter
side of things partially (even though it's not at all clear from
the photos TfL provided)? But I thought the prominent marking
was for the bus stop and nothing else.
Here's the Apple Maps Link
HTML https://maps.apple.com/look-around?address=216+Whitechapel+Road%2C+London%2C+E1+1BJ%2C+England&coordinate=51.519419%2C-0.057282&name=216+Whitechapel+Road&_mvs=Ci0JF6F%2F5YPCSUARR%2FF7e9hOrb8ZAACSXdS%2FTUAh5R6pXz%2BhakApGqveZCZINkA%3D<br
/>that shows what I mean.
Really confusing. Thoughts welcome.
#Post#: 112832--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 11, 2026, 9:04 am
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Please post the PCN, all sides, with only name and address
redacted.
I suspect your car intruded into the double-red lines, but until
we see the PCN it's difficult to say. You could ring TfL and
request the video, which is sent as a DVD. This will stop the
enforcement for about 14 days whilst they send it out, and
hopefully show why the PCN was served.
#Post#: 113351--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: maxxxpayne
Date: March 16, 2026, 4:27 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Please post the PCN, all sides, with only name and address
redacted.
>
> I suspect your car intruded into the double-red lines, but
until we see the PCN it's difficult to say. You could ring TfL
and request the video, which is sent as a DVD. This will stop
the enforcement for about 14 days whilst they send it out, and
hopefully show why the PCN was served.
>
--- End Quote ---
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Here you go. Let's see what DVD TfL send me.
#Post#: 113354--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 16, 2026, 4:36 am
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It's not totally clear from the photo extracts from the video,
but I reckon you were partially over the double-red lines. Only
way to find out once you have the video, (which may not show
this, and they've just guessed it, yes really !!), is to submit
representations stating that you were parked in a valid bay at
the time the alleged contravention was detected.
#Post#: 113395--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: RichardW
Date: March 16, 2026, 7:32 am
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It looks to me like you were stopped about 30m further along the
road at the entrance to Maples Place?
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/FXVykXJzTezAKQVt5
The Lettings agency says 214 which is the reference on the PCN.
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Re: TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: maxxxpayne
Date: March 16, 2026, 9:14 am
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--- Quote from: RichardW link ---
>
> It looks to me like you were stopped about 30m further along
the road at the entrance to Maples Place?
>
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/FXVykXJzTezAKQVt5
>
> The Lettings agency says 214 which is the reference on the
PCN.
>
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I probably was, however what was extremely confusing is that red
dotted parking marking exists further along but with double
solid red lines...
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#Post#: 113458--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 16, 2026, 3:05 pm
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It is clear from going back into earlier GSV views, that the bay
was longer, I reckon zbout twice as long.The last view with the
full bay is 2022 : -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/vZ6zyDb3NtacdETc9
there is no 2023 view, but the next view (2024) shows the bay
markings, still noticeable, but with double-red lines added: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/oqA3bt8JVCbDpgxP8
Clearly the highways department are useless at following
instructions !
and the latest view (August 2025)
still shows them:-
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/J9ix12KW2XDLey558
The sign for the original length bay has remained in its
original position so is now incorrectly placed.
Plenty here for an adjudication at London Tribunals methinks
#Post#: 113471--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL 46 Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: maxxxpayne
Date: March 16, 2026, 4:49 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> It is clear from going back into earlier GSV views, that the
bay was longer, I reckon zbout twice as long.The last view with
the full bay is 2022 : -
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/vZ6zyDb3NtacdETc9
> there is no 2023 view, but the next view (2024) shows the bay
markings, still noticeable, but with double-red lines added: -
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/oqA3bt8JVCbDpgxP8
> Clearly the highways department are useless at following
instructions !
> and the latest view (August 2025)
> still shows them:-
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/J9ix12KW2XDLey558
>
> The sign for the original length bay has remained in its
original position so is now incorrectly placed.
>
> Plenty here for an adjudication at London Tribunals methinks
>
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Thanks. Exactly my thought. On that day a couple of cars were
parked behind me also so I couldn’t even see if there was a
break between the bays and I simply looked at the sign that said
no stopping between 7AM-7PM MON-SAT, noted it was Sunday and I
was well within dotted parking bay. I’ll appeal to TfL first and
take it from there.
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