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#Post#: 112794--------------------------------------------------
Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of the pa
rking charge
By: ReflectoR Date: March 11, 2026, 5:27 am
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Hello everyone,
a bit of miscommunication with the missus meant that the car was
left in a Pay & Display without payment. The enforcement hours
are 9.30 to 16:30.
Observation time was 9:41 to 9:41. No observation in other
words. I don't know if that's something I could base an appeal
on?
I've post the front and back of the PCN below.
As always thank you all for your help!
P.s. I know I've left posting this very late, and there's only 6
days left until the 28 days is up. Sorry.
Front
[img width=600
height=1147]
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Back
[img width=600
height=1145]
HTML https://u.cubeupload.com/rtx/RTS02IZ38775759PCNBa.jpg[/img]
#Post#: 112803--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: fraser.mitchell Date: March 11, 2026, 6:29 am
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Most cases we see in council car parks for non-payment is
because the OP was in course of paying, usually by phone, and
was not present by the car. It is accepted by all players in the
decriminalised regime that time must be allowed to make payment
after parking, or else nobody could ever park legally ! However
in your case, no payment was ever made, and to be honest, unless
you tell us more qabout why no payment was made, the discount
looks your best option.
#Post#: 113152--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: ReflectoR Date: March 13, 2026, 11:00 am
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No payment was made because my wife drove the car off 5 minutes
later. And also if a payment was to be made, we would have
thought it mute, considering a PCN was already issued.
Usually the car gets moved to a permit bay, any on the same
road.
But on this day I'd assumed my wife was going out, and she would
leave before 9.30, and so I left it where it was and went to
work.
She left later than she'd expected and got a PCN at 9.41.
So yes it was kind of our mistake. But I was seeing if theres
anything I could say around the observation time. I was under
the impression they are to give a little bit of time in
observation.
Are there any technicalities that could be argued? I'm happy
paying the higher amount after a tribunal.
But I'm wondering if I have case to take to tribunal to begin
with.
#Post#: 113160--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: stamfordman Date: March 13, 2026, 12:21 pm
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Lack of observation is only useful to you if the CEO missed
exempt activity, mainly loading and assisted alighting/boarding.
Are you a permit holder? I can only see an ask for discretion.
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Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: ReflectoR Date: March 14, 2026, 3:47 am
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Yes, I am a permit holder.
If I ask for discretion, and it gets rejected, which seems
highly likely with Islington nowadays. What grounds could I take
it to tribunal on?
Either way I'd look to take it to tribunal.
#Post#: 113213--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: fraser.mitchell Date: March 14, 2026, 4:44 am
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[quote author=ReflectoR link=topic=10192.msg113209#msg113209
date=1773478063]
Yes, I am a permit holder.
If I ask for discretion, and it gets rejected, which seems
highly likely with Islington nowadays. What grounds could I take
it to tribunal on?
Either way I'd look to take it to tribunal.
[/quote]
Adjudicators cannot accept appeals based on mitigation. This was
decided in the High Court many years ago. This has always
puzzled me because why have a statutory grounds of "the penalty
exceeded the relevant amount in the circumstances of the case".
There is nothing in the regulations that defines
"circumstances".
#Post#: 113253--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: stamfordman Date: March 14, 2026, 11:05 am
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I would try a grovel for discretion, enclosing proof of permit,
saying it was an oversight on this one occasion not to move the
car to a permit bay.
But why wasn't it in a permit bay?
#Post#: 113349--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: ReflectoR Date: March 16, 2026, 2:52 am
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[quote author=stamfordman link=topic=10192.msg113253#msg113253
date=1773504352]
I would try a grovel for discretion, enclosing proof of permit,
saying it was an oversight on this one occasion not to move the
car to a permit bay.
But why wasn't it in a permit bay?
[/quote]
All the permit bays were full. It doesn't help that Islington
have a depot on this same road, and all their vans take up
residents' bays, during ALL times of the day. My understanding
is that they are to only use the Business bays. But
miraculously, them parking in any bay is overlooked by the
wardens, despite them telling me that they shouldn't be in them.
Of course, I do not know how correct the wardens are. But it
seems highly unfair for so many Islington vans to take up all
the bays, in the one of the smallest permit zones in Islington.
Anyways, back to the matter at hand, usually if we can't find a
bay we leave it anywhere else suitable, and I will move it in
the morning before going to work.
This time I did not move it, because I knew my wife was going
somewhere, and she was suppossed to leave at or before 9.30AM.
Unfortunately, she left late, and she had assumed I'd already
moved the car to a permit bay.
#Post#: 113353--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: fraser.mitchell Date: March 16, 2026, 4:33 am
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Why not raise a complaint to Islington about council vans
blocking resident parking bays.
#Post#: 113356--------------------------------------------------
Re: Islington Contravention Code 11 Parked without payment of th
e parking charge
By: ReflectoR Date: March 16, 2026, 4:47 am
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[quote author=Incandescent link=topic=10192.msg113353#msg113353
date=1773653624]
Why not raise a complaint to Islington about council vans
blocking resident parking bays.
[/quote]
You're right, I really should. But I just feel like it won't go
anywhere, like a lot of things with Islington.
I know that's not the right attitude.
I also don't know where to begin, or who to complain to.
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