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PCN - Waltham Forest - Code 31 (waiting in yellow box) while
turning right
DIR By: ammarm93
Date: March 6, 2026, 11:07 am
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Hi,
Would appreciate some help with a PCN I believe I received
unfairly this week.
I received a PCN from the London Borough of Waltham Forest on
26/02/26 for the alleged contravention: 31 (Entering and
stopping in a box junction when prohibited).
I was turning right (as shown in the video evidence below) and
had 2 cars ahead of me. The large lorry 2 cars ahead stopped
earlier than I expected (this isn't shown in the video evidence)
and so I had to wait to complete my right turn on the yellow box
junction.
Just to mention in case this may also be relevant: the reason
the truck stopped was because the car in front of it stopped
unexpectedly (I forget now if it started parking or stopped to
drop off a passenger) so I wasn't expecting to be slowing down
in the junction as there was no build up of traffic in the road
ahead.
Pictures:
HTML https://ibb.co/ymKCqtD9
HTML https://ibb.co/NdHcw8gy
HTML https://ibb.co/MxMz5zwN
Video evidence:
HTML https://streamable.com/twlr4z
From my understanding stopping is allowed while turning right if
you are obstructed by other cars also turning right.
Do I have grounds to appeal this PCN on that basis?
Grateful for any help with this.
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Re: PCN - Waltham Forest - Code 31 (waiting in yellow box) while
turning right
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: March 6, 2026, 12:09 pm
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It looks like you had ample room to move out of the box anyway -
I'd go for no contravention on that too.
Some of these right turns are deemed unfair owing to sight lines
- I'll have a look at the register.
The right turn exemption applies to waiting for oncoming traffic
to clear before turning right at a crossroads but there is some
ambiguity I think.
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Re: PCN - Waltham Forest - Code 31 (waiting in yellow box) while
turning right
DIR By: MrChips
Date: March 6, 2026, 1:44 pm
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Can you share a copy of the PCN so we can check for fatal
defects?
I agree wth Stamfordman, you didn't actually have to stop where
you did and could have pulled alongside the car in front of you.
Further you are allowed to wait in the box when turning right if
it's for oncoming traffic or another vehicle waiting to complete
a right turn. In my opinion the car in front of you was still in
the process of completing it's right turn so the turning right
exemption applies. However we've seen adjudicators apply this
exemption more narrowly then it is expressed in the wording of
the law.
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Re: PCN - Waltham Forest - Code 31 (waiting in yellow box) while
turning right
DIR By: ammarm93
Date: March 6, 2026, 4:24 pm
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HTML https://ibb.co/Y4P7k5gn
Here's the PCN letter.
I wanted to pull into the space but a cyclist started coming
across me as you can see in the video and so I waited...
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Re: PCN - Waltham Forest - Code 31 (waiting in yellow box) while
turning right
DIR By: MrChips
Date: March 6, 2026, 4:28 pm
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Well in that case, you didn't commit a contravention and should
appeal on that basis
It's only an offence to have to stop due to stationary vehicles.
That bicycle never stops moving.
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Re: PCN - Waltham Forest - Code 31 (waiting in yellow box) while
turning right
DIR By: Princeperch
Date: March 7, 2026, 3:46 am
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HTML https://www.yellowboxes.co.uk/no-stationary-appeals
I got done here in this exact location doing exactly what you
were doing. My case is the first link in the above.
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