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#Post#: 112271--------------------------------------------------
Help with Barking & Dagenham PCN – No Right Turn into Lidl R
eede Rd – sign not noticed
By: TitoMW Date: March 6, 2026, 8:06 am
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PCN: BZ82837370
Date / Time: 23/02/2026 at 18:00
VR: WA17 ZJX
Location: Reede Road (Dagenham) – junction with service road
opposite 9–13
Contravention: Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn)
I am seeking advice before submitting my informal & as I expect
formal representation to a PCN that arrived for me in the post
today.
On the date and time stated I made a right turn into Reede Road
in order to access the Lidl/Iceland car park. I was initially
turning into Reede Road from the A1240 main road past the
shopping centre. It was dark and raining heavily at the time,
which significantly reduced visibility. I followed another
vehicle that entered the car park ahead of me and did not notice
any restriction indicating that a right turn was prohibited
during certain hours.
I later discovered, after reviewing the location on Google
Street View, that there is a sign indicating “no right turn”
between 08:30–10:00 and 16:30–19:00 Monday to Saturday. However,
I did not see this sign when driving because it was not
illuminated and visibility conditions were poor due to the
weather and time of day. The first time I became aware of the
restriction was after receiving the PCN.
My intention was simply to park and shop at Lidl, which I do
regularly. I can also retrieve a bank statement or receipt
confirming a purchase at Lidl around that time if needed.
From reading other discussions it appears this right turn into
Reede Road for the Lidl/Iceland car park has caught out many
drivers - seems like an easy cash grab for the council and
seemingly random location after turning from the dagenham
heathway main A1240 road - you wouldn't expect a random
restriction on your way into the local lidl and also trying to
avoid getting stuck in the large yellow box.
I have attached the following for review:
• All sides of the PCN - Evidence Folder Here
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1I8e1AL32FoOgBkt5Pmu-g5LhL3v65jWQ
• The council video evidence - in folder above
• Photographs from the PCN - in folder above
• A Google Street View link to the location - -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/uRhirzUvmXJPnfz27
Any advice on whether the signage, lighting, or circumstances
may provide grounds to challenge this PCN would be appreciated.
Does anyone know if the camera details in the top corner
indicate it's an authorised camera for capturing this type of
footage? Maybe there's a defence based on the camera/anpr
footage being inaccurate.
PS. Just saw an FOI request for the number of PCNs given at the
same location dated November 2023.
"Please provide the number of PCNs issued at location: Reede
Road (Dagenham) (Jcn With Service
Road Opposite 9-13) under the contravention of 50r Performing a
prohibited turn (no right turn) since
the inception of the traffic restriction to date.
The number of PCNs is 12,920." Read here for more -
HTML https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/pcns_issued_at_reede_road
#Post#: 112299--------------------------------------------------
Re: Help with Barking & Dagenham PCN – No Right Turn into Li
dl Reede Rd – sign not noticed
By: stamfordman Date: March 6, 2026, 12:11 pm
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We had several cases when they first put this sign up - I'll
check latest on the tribunal register. The video obviously
doesn't show the sign.
#Post#: 112305--------------------------------------------------
Re: Help with Barking & Dagenham PCN – No Right Turn into Li
dl Reede Rd – sign not noticed
By: TitoMW Date: March 6, 2026, 1:03 pm
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Hi
My apologies - have now added a picture of the sign from Google
Maps. This may have moved recently as seems to have been stated
on this forum but until i'm in the area again - won't be able to
take a present day picture.
Have added here and in the evidence folder.
sign pics
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1I8e1AL32FoOgBkt5Pmu-g5LhL3v65jWQ
sign pics
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/17nTCoPyuW1bsyFi1IojNUPT5rKZeVzXm/view?usp=drive_link
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Re: Help with Barking & Dagenham PCN – No Right Turn into Li
dl Reede Rd – sign not noticed
By: fraser.mitchell Date: March 6, 2026, 1:58 pm
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We've seen this location several times, incl on the now-gone
Pepipoo forum. I think there were a few wins a few years ago,
but I think the sign has been improved since.
#Post#: 114201--------------------------------------------------
Re: Help with Barking & Dagenham PCN – No Right Turn into Li
dl Reede Rd – sign not noticed
By: TitoMW Date: March 24, 2026, 7:40 am
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Hi all,
I received a rejection notice stating this.
Barking & Dagenham
London Borough of Barking &
Dagenham
PO BOX 352
Sheffield
S98 1YE
Date 18/03/2026
Mr -----
Dear Mr ------
Notice of Rejection of Representation
London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003
Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) Number: BZ82837370
Vehicle Registration: WA17ZJX
Date of Contravention: 23/02/2026
Appeal Verification Code: 82C614
The Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) was issued to you because your
vehicle was seen performing a turn where it was not permitted to
do so.
We have investigated the circumstances raised in your
correspondence and have made the decision to not cancel your
notice. The reasons for my decision are set out below, along
with the options available to you at this stage.
The Council has issued and served a Penalty Charge Notice as the
aforementioned vehicle was recorded by an approved device
'performing a prohibited turn. The CCTV footage was reviewed by
a CCTV operator who deemed that a contravention has occurred.
As outlined in the Highway Code it is the responsibility of
drivers to make themselves aware of any restrictions that are in
force and drive accordingly. This restriction is illustrated by
a sign with a red outer circle showing you the direction you
must not take. The particular sign for this location indicates
that a right turn has been banned. You are permitted to carry on
straight ahead. The restriction prohibits vehicles from turning
right from Reede Road (Dagenham) Mon - Sat 8am - 10am and 4.30 -
7pm.
It is the responsibility of the driver to ensure they check
signage, whether they are familiar with the area or not, so they
are not in contravention. Please note that there is signage at
the location in compliance to Traffic Signs Regulations and
General Directions 2016 which indicates the restriction in
force.
We have looked at the CCTV footage again as well as consider
what you said about the signage, however, we are satisfied that
the signs at the location were clear enough and correct, the PCN
was correctly issued, and we cannot justify its cancellation.
BZ82837370
I think I'll just pay the £80 discounted fee - I was considering
the authorised camera angle and I've submitted a Subject Access
Request with a hope to try my hand at the ETA Tribunal but I
really don't feel confident that I have much of a case or chance
of success. So will just suffer the discounted fee I guess >:(
So crazy to get a £80 parking ticket for driving into Lidl
within such arbitrary hours (Mon - Sat 8am - 10am and 4.30 -
7pm, saturday too why?) - why would I ever go back there? Very
discouraging that a first time offence is penalised like that -
I can't just apologise and say I'll never do it again? So many
people are caught out at that exact same junction given the high
levels of PCN issuage and consistent signage issues.
Anyways I have other ones to share with you all haha.
#Post#: 114204--------------------------------------------------
Re: Help with Barking & Dagenham PCN – No Right Turn into Li
dl Reede Rd – sign not noticed
By: fraser.mitchell Date: March 24, 2026, 7:51 am
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Fine.
At least you didn't fold and pay straightaway and join the
Mugged Club ! They've had to do at least some work for their
money.
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