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#Post#: 112614--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: dk007
Date: March 9, 2026, 8:36 pm
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Thanks for looking at them. what do you advise me to do, should
i make representation and what to write in it?
#Post#: 112651--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: tincombe
Date: March 10, 2026, 6:10 am
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They'll reject your informal reps anyway, so I'd simply stick
with the facts and see what mess they get themselves into.
Possibly along these lines:
On **** I parked in Amhurst Gardens on an unmarked length of
carriageway, as shown in your photos, which indicates that there
are no parking restrictions imposed under a local order. I
returned to my car to find a PCN alleging a contravention in
respect of a parking place. I looked around and could see a
parking place sign but this had no effect because the mandatory
road markings to indicate the extent of the restriction were not
present. Subsequent to these events, I explored the area further
and found Controlled Parking Zone entrance signs, but as these
do not relate to parking restrictions I therefore dismissed
them.
I am therefore making representations on the grounds that the
contravention did not occur.
If the authority reject these representations they must prove in
detail by reference to the relevant regulations why parking on
an unmarked length of carriageway could give rise to the alleged
contravention.
#Post#: 112774--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: dk007
Date: March 10, 2026, 8:15 pm
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Thanks for sharing the representation details. From my previous
conversation on one of the other PCN, someone in this forum had
previously advised some discrepancy on the PCN wording that made
them win the case.
Schedule 2 Para 2 (d) The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic
Contraventions (Approved Devices, Charging Guidelines and
General Provisions) (England) Regulations 2022 provides that a
PCN issued under Regulation 9 must state "that the penalty
charge must be paid within the period of 28 days beginning with
the date on which the alleged contravention occurred". The PCN
in the present case states that it must be paid within 28 days
of the date on which this Penalty Charge Notice was served.
Although the two dates will of course often be the same, as the
PCN in this case does not state what it is required to state it
too is non compliant and no penalty could be demanded on the
basis of it.
Do you think, i can mention this as well now?
#Post#: 112780--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: tincombe
Date: March 11, 2026, 2:57 am
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No. Have you read your PCN, IMO the wording is as required i.e.
'within the period of 28/14 days beginning with the date on
which the contravention occurred/PCN was served'.
#Post#: 112782--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: dk007
Date: March 11, 2026, 3:49 am
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It says the notice served but not the contravention occurred.
#Post#: 113975--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: dk007
Date: March 21, 2026, 6:30 pm
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Hi,
They have rejected my representation, pleas find the details
attached below:
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/govf1Or_xl.jpg
HTML https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/tecHDeR_xl.jpg
Please could you advise of next steps, are they any chances of
fighting it out or should i just pay this?
#Post#: 114285--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: dk007
Date: March 24, 2026, 4:36 pm
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Hello Experts,
I was wondering if anyone had a chance to look at it yet?
Thanks
#Post#: 114299--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: March 24, 2026, 6:51 pm
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Their letter is the usual tosh we see so often. They keep
referring to CPZ signs
A Permit Parking Zone cannot be part of a Controlled Parking
Zone. All a CPZ does is control the restriction hours of
single-yellow lines within the zone. So if this PPZ has no
supporting traffic order, then PCNs for parking without a permit
within it are void. The CPZ entry signs give no hint of a PPZ.
In fairness, they seem to have erected repeater signs as well as
the entry signs. Frankly the only way to get a proper decision
is to take them to London Tribunals, but you first would have to
wait for the Notice to Owner, submit your reps again, but this
time enhanced from our advice here. Once rejected again, you
then can register an appeal at CC. Of course, you have to risk
the full PCN penalty there.
#Post#: 114307--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: dk007
Date: March 24, 2026, 9:18 pm
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Thanks for your reply on that, would someone from the experts
here would be able to represent at CC and how much it might cost
as I understand their time is also valuable.
#Post#: 114315--------------------------------------------------
Re: Hounslow, Code 12r, parked in residents. shared use without
valid permit, Amhurst Gardens
DIR By: tincombe
Date: March 25, 2026, 4:09 am
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You're getting ahead of yourself. This is still the informal
stage, pl see the enforcement process here:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process
As I posted earlier, they were bound to reject because they're
in charge at present, they're stupid and money-hungry: what a
lethal combination!
Anyway, IMO wait for the NTO and let's hope they mess up with
this as well.
You are the registered keeper with current DVLA details?
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