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Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: tincombe Date: March 4, 2026, 1:07 pm
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Your VRM please.
Have you looked at the council's photos?
Did you renew your permit when put on notice by the events which
you describe in your first post? If so, I wonder why the second
PCN was issued.
You've made reps, so it's a case of waiting. If they cancel,
then that's it. But if not, the next stage is a NTO issued to
the registered keeper. Is this you and are your DVLA details
current?
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Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: C_H_R_I_S Date: March 5, 2026, 3:20 am
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[quote author=tincombe link=topic=10117.msg112087#msg112087
date=1772651271]
Your VRM please.
Have you looked at the council's photos?
Did you renew your permit when put on notice by the events which
you describe in your first post? If so, I wonder why the second
PCN was issued.
You've made reps, so it's a case of waiting. If they cancel,
then that's it. But if not, the next stage is a NTO issued to
the registered keeper. Is this you and are your DVLA details
current?
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vrm= ls67usb
I haven't made an appeal yet as I want to run it by you first
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Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: tincombe Date: March 5, 2026, 5:27 am
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Thanks. Have you looked at the photos and if so what within
these supports your contention?
Have you reviewed the council's policy on expired permits? I ask
because there is a different and discrete contravention and
penalty in respect of 'invalid' permits i.e. which have only
just expired.
When did you renew your permit and are you the registered keeper
with current DVLA details? I ask because these are factors which
can affect the approach taken in your reps (plural) because you
have two PCNs with similar but not identical circumstances and
therefore 2 reps are required. On which point, pl post the 2nd
PCN.
#Post#: 112153--------------------------------------------------
Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: MrChips Date: March 5, 2026, 7:45 am
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Is the ticket you posted, dated 3 March, the first or second
PCN? The council photos associated with it show two PCNs
attached to the windscreen.
I'm inferring that it's the second - can you confirm the PCN
number of the first?
#Post#: 112356--------------------------------------------------
Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: C_H_R_I_S Date: March 7, 2026, 6:46 am
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Apologies for delay.
Here is the first PCN:
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#Post#: 112368--------------------------------------------------
Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: MrChips Date: March 7, 2026, 9:03 am
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The pictures show a PCN served on the vehicle at 2.30pm on the
first day. This is at odds with your account. It's theoretically
possible he served it, photographed it, removed it and then came
back the next day to reattach it together with a new PCN but it
sounds far fetched.
Are you 100% sure it was not there when you returned to your
vehicle on 2 March?
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Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: C_H_R_I_S Date: March 7, 2026, 1:41 pm
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im pretty sure as I was next to the car arguing with him and he
walked off.
Also my neighbour had footage at the same time and couldnt see
him there at that time
How do we know his photos are trustworthy?
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Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: C_H_R_I_S Date: March 8, 2026, 11:17 am
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:?
BEFORE i send this could I get some feedback on best appeal line
any improvements to thisAppeal:
Dear Sir or Madam,
I write to make formal representations against the two PCNs
issued to my vehicle for Code 12 (parked in a residents’ bay
without clearly displaying a valid permit).
I respectfully request that both PCNs be cancelled on the
grounds of procedural impropriety, improper service, duplicate
enforcement, and failure to act fairly and proportionately.
**1. Failure to Properly Serve the First PCN**
At the time the first PCN is stated to have been issued, I was
present at the vehicle and observed CEO 870 inspecting it. When
I approached him to ask about the situation, he refused to
engage in any meaningful conversation and walked away. No PCN
was affixed to the vehicle and none was handed to me.
Under Regulation 9 of the Civil Enforcement of Parking
Contraventions (England) General Regulations 2007, a PCN must
either be fixed to the vehicle or handed to the person appearing
to be in charge. Neither occurred.
If the authority asserts that the PCN was issued at that time, I
require strict proof of lawful service, including CEO notes,
photographs, and any body-worn camera footage.
If the PCN was not properly served, it is invalid and
unenforceable.
**2. Incorrect Recorded Time of Issue**
The first PCN is recorded as having been issued at the time of
my interaction with CEO 870. However, no PCN was placed on the
vehicle at that time, and the officer left the location.
If records indicate that the PCN was served at that moment, this
would be factually incorrect and constitutes a serious
procedural defect.
**3. Two PCNs for a Continuous Contravention**
There was no ticket visible on the vehicle on the first day. The
following day, two PCNs appeared.
The vehicle had not been moved. This represents a single
continuous contravention. Issuing multiple PCNs for the same
continuous state of affairs is excessive and contrary to
established enforcement principles.
I request confirmation of the observation times for both PCNs
and justification for issuing multiple penalties.
**4. Failure to Act Fairly and Proportionately**
Had I been clearly informed that a contravention was being
enforced, I could have immediately moved the vehicle to my
private driveway.
Instead, the officer disengaged and left without clearly
advising me that a PCN was being issued. While I understand
officers are not obliged to provide warnings, enforcement
authorities remain under a duty to act fairly and
proportionately.
This was not deliberate non-compliance. My resident permit had
expired inadvertently and has since been renewed.
**5. Access Issues with Parking Account**
I have also been unable to access my online parking account. I
attempted to reset my password; however, even after doing so,
the system does not allow me to log in. This has caused
additional difficulty in managing my permit and reviewing the
PCNs.
I request that this access issue be investigated and resolved as
a matter of urgency.
**6. Formal Complaint**
I have submitted a formal complaint regarding the conduct of CEO
870. I was advised by CEO 391 to include these matters within my
written representations.
Given the defective service, evidential concerns, duplicate
enforcement, and the technical issues accessing my account, I
respectfully request that both PCNs be cancelled.
Should the authority be minded to reject these representations,
please treat this letter as a formal request for:
* Full CEO notes
* All photographic evidence
* Body-worn camera footage
* Evidence of lawful service of both PCNs
I look forward to your confirmation that these PCNs have been
cancelled.
Appreciate any help- thankyou!
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Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: Grant Urismo Date: March 8, 2026, 5:16 pm
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See what other more experienced members say, but I think there
may be some value in appealing the 2 PCNs individually to avoid
a situation where an adjudicator looks at both and decides you
should pay one. My slightly amateur assessment is that the
second should be a slam dunk at adjudication, so getting the
Council to fold on the first one should be your initial focus.
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Re: CEO Revenge - PCN Misconduct
By: C_H_R_I_S Date: March 9, 2026, 8:08 am
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Thats a good idea.. thankyou
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