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       #Post#: 111737--------------------------------------------------
       PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: Nick325i
       Date: March 2, 2026, 7:10 am
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       Hi,
       I got back to my car whilst the CEO was placing the PCN on my
       windscreen. I was visiting the nearby apartments and the owner
       said they would give me a visitors permit. But when I got there
       he couldn't find any. I went back to move the car but it was too
       late. It took me time to get to the apartment (had to buzz
       through 3 doors and up and down the lift).
       Is there anything I can appeal on or should I just pay?
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       #Post#: 111950--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 3, 2026, 2:57 pm
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       It's worth a try saying what you've sai - there is 5 mins
       observation on the PCN.
       What was the purpose of visit? A statement from who you were
       visiting if they promised you a permit could help.
       #Post#: 112047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: Nick325i
       Date: March 4, 2026, 9:48 am
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       It was to value their apartment. I literally got back and the
       CEO said I was about 30 seconds too late.
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       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 4, 2026, 12:29 pm
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       Just submit what happened. Time is always allowed to obtain a
       parking ticket or permit.
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       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 4, 2026, 12:53 pm
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       What did you do when you got back to car.
       There are pay bays there.
       #Post#: 112205--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: Nick325i
       Date: March 5, 2026, 4:36 pm
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       It was the first time there were actually no bays to park in and
       pay. Would the following suffice?
       I wish to challenge the above Penalty Charge Notice.
       At the time of the alleged contravention I had parked briefly in
       order to obtain a visitor permit from a resident within the
       building. The building has controlled security access and lifts,
       which meant it took slightly longer than expected to reach the
       resident and request the permit.
       I returned to the vehicle as quickly as possible and
       unfortunately missed the Civil Enforcement Officer by only a
       short time, who advised that the ticket had just been issued.
       The vehicle was only parked for a few minutes (approximately
       five minutes according to the PCN) and was not left unattended
       for any longer than necessary while I attempted to obtain the
       required visitor permit.
       Given that I was actively attempting to comply with the parking
       requirements and returned to the vehicle immediately, I
       respectfully ask that the council exercise discretion and cancel
       this Penalty Charge Notice.
       Thank you for considering my representation.
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       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 5, 2026, 6:15 pm
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       It's not a matter for their discretion.
       Any parking regime that demands a visitor must obtain a visitor
       permit in order to park, must allow sufficient time for that
       permit to be obtained. So I suggest you do not ask them for
       discretion at all, but point out that by demanding visitors must
       obtain a visitor permit in order to park, they must allow
       sufficient time to obtain that permit from the resident they are
       visiting.
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       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 6, 2026, 12:29 pm
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       To repeat, what happened next?
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       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: Nick325i
       Date: March 9, 2026, 5:34 am
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       Nothing happened. I moved the car into a nearby car park by
       calling upon a favour from a previous client.
       #Post#: 112510--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN whilst getting a temporary permit
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: March 9, 2026, 5:55 am
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       Then you should say that you returned immediately to the car as
       you were aware your responsibility was to move it, and you found
       a car park nearby.
       You could also say you were working as a xxxxx and always
       diligent about parking legally but on this occasion was briefly
       misled about the permit.
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