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GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry England
land
By: Jameuy Date: March 1, 2026, 10:17 am
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Hello
Incident date 19/06/2025
Upon entering the car park at Forest of Bere (West Walk) in
Hampshire, the driver found a space, parked up and did not
purchase a ticket. I, the registered keeper, did receive a PCN
which was not responded to in any way. A claim form has now been
received, issue date of 23/02/26 with the accompanying response
pack (N9A, N9B etc).
I understand from having a read up a bit in the forum that there
could be some recourse on the basis that a forestry bylaw
determined that forestry England land is not relevant land for
the purposes of PoFA?
Image of claim form:
HTML https://ibb.co/sdF9bTgV
I would be very grateful for any advice on how best to proceed.
Thank you
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Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: Jameuy Date: March 6, 2026, 12:40 pm
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Anyone got any advice, please? Did I do something wrong to not
get any reply? Thank you
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Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: RichardW Date: March 6, 2026, 2:45 pm
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If you still have the original PCN please post it up.
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Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: InterCity125 Date: March 7, 2026, 1:27 am
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Given the issue date, I would log into MCOL and submit and
Acknowledgement of Service to buy a little extra time.
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Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: jfollows Date: March 7, 2026, 3:05 am
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[quote]Land is not ‘relevant land’ if it’s covered by byelaws,
such as ports and airports.
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
3(1)In this Schedule “relevant land” means any land (including
land above or below ground level) other than—
(a)a highway maintainable at the public expense (within the
meaning of section 329(1) of the Highways Act 1980);
(b)a parking place which is provided or controlled by a traffic
authority;
(c)any land (not falling within paragraph (a) or (b)) on which
the parking of a vehicle is subject to statutory control.
(2)In sub-paragraph (1)(b)—
“parking place” has the meaning given by section 32(4)(b) of the
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984;
“traffic authority” means each of the following—
(a)
the Secretary of State;
(b)
the Welsh Ministers;
(c)
Transport for London;
(d)
the Common Council of the City of London;
(e)
the council of a county, county borough, London borough or
district;
(f)
a parish or community council;
(g)
the Council of the Isles of Scilly.
(3)For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1)(c) the parking of a
vehicle on land is “subject to statutory control” if any
statutory provision imposes a liability (whether criminal or
civil, and whether in the form of a fee or charge or a penalty
of any kind) in respect of the parking on that land of vehicles
generally or of vehicles of a description that includes the
vehicle in question.
(4)In sub-paragraph (3) “statutory provision” means any
provision (apart from this Schedule) contained in—
(a)any Act (including a local or private Act), whenever passed;
or
(b)any subordinate legislation, whenever made,
and for this purpose “subordinate legislation” means an Order in
Council or any order, regulations, byelaws or other legislative
instrument [F1, but not byelaws made under section 219 of the
Transport Act 2000 by the Strategic Rail Authority, confirmed
under Schedule 20 of the Transport Act 2000 and preserved by
section 46(4) of the Railways Act 2005].[/quote]
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Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: Jameuy Date: March 7, 2026, 9:19 am
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Thank you, I have submitted my AoS on MCOL today.
Unfortunately I don’t have the PCN anymore.
Appreciate the quote on “relevant land”.
What is my next move? How do I form this into a defence
statement/document? Thanks again!
#Post#: 112885--------------------------------------------------
Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: Jameuy Date: March 11, 2026, 1:32 pm
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[quote author=jfollows link=topic=10089.msg112334#msg112334
date=1772874300]
[quote]Land is not ‘relevant land’ if it’s covered by byelaws,
such as ports and airports.
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
3(1)In this Schedule “relevant land” means any land (including
land above or below ground level) other than—
(a)a highway maintainable at the public expense (within the
meaning of section 329(1) of the Highways Act 1980);
(b)a parking place which is provided or controlled by a traffic
authority;
(c)any land (not falling within paragraph (a) or (b)) on which
the parking of a vehicle is subject to statutory control.
(2)In sub-paragraph (1)(b)—
“parking place” has the meaning given by section 32(4)(b) of the
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984;
“traffic authority” means each of the following—
(a)
the Secretary of State;
(b)
the Welsh Ministers;
(c)
Transport for London;
(d)
the Common Council of the City of London;
(e)
the council of a county, county borough, London borough or
district;
(f)
a parish or community council;
(g)
the Council of the Isles of Scilly.
(3)For the purposes of sub-paragraph (1)(c) the parking of a
vehicle on land is “subject to statutory control” if any
statutory provision imposes a liability (whether criminal or
civil, and whether in the form of a fee or charge or a penalty
of any kind) in respect of the parking on that land of vehicles
generally or of vehicles of a description that includes the
vehicle in question.
(4)In sub-paragraph (3) “statutory provision” means any
provision (apart from this Schedule) contained in—
(a)any Act (including a local or private Act), whenever passed;
or
(b)any subordinate legislation, whenever made,
and for this purpose “subordinate legislation” means an Order in
Council or any order, regulations, byelaws or other legislative
instrument [F1, but not byelaws made under section 219 of the
Transport Act 2000 by the Strategic Rail Authority, confirmed
under Schedule 20 of the Transport Act 2000 and preserved by
section 46(4) of the Railways Act 2005].[/quote]
[/quote]
Thank you for supplying the specific wording.
Are you able to assist me with what steps I take next and how I
form this into a defence I can submit please?
I have completed the AoS and declared that I intend to defend
the claim. Just not sure what to do next.
Any help is very much appreciated! Cheers.
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Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: jfollows Date: March 11, 2026, 1:42 pm
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So is this ‘relevant land’ or not?
I don’t know.
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Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: DWMB2 Date: March 16, 2026, 5:46 am
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The Forestry Commission byelaws do regulate parking. With that
in mind, if the car park forms part of the land governed by the
byelaws, then it would seem not to be relevant land for the
purposes of PoFA.
Take a look at some other defences on here to get a flavour for
how they are written and see if you can draft something up on
which we can offer comment. I would put the PoFA issue front and
centre.
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Re: GroupNexus PCN, Claim form received DCBLegal - Forestry Engl
and land
By: Jameuy Date: March 16, 2026, 5:11 pm
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Thank you for the advice this far.
Here is a draft - being careful not to mention driver and only
keeper:
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The Defendant is the registered keeper of the vehicle in
question. The Defendant denies liability for the entirety of the
claim.
The Claimant alleges that a parking charge became payable
following the parking of the vehicle at a location within the
Forest of Bere near Wickham, namely the West Walk Car Park.
The Defendant understands that this site is managed by the
Forestry Commission, of Forestry England.
Land managed by the Forestry Commission may be subject to the
Forestry Commission Byelaws 1982, which were made pursuant to
section 46 of the Forestry Act 1967.
The Forestry Commission Byelaws regulate behaviour on Forestry
Commission land, including the use of vehicles and where
vehicles may be driven or left.
Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 allows a
parking operator to pursue the registered keeper of a vehicle
only where the parking occurred on “relevant land”.
Paragraph 3 of Schedule 4 of PoFA provides that “relevant land”
does not include land on which the parking of a vehicle is
subject to statutory control.
If the land in question is Forestry Commission land governed by
statutory byelaws, then it is land where the parking of vehicles
is subject to statutory control.
In such circumstances, the land is not “relevant land” for the
purposes of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.
The Claimant is therefore unable to rely upon Schedule 4 of the
Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 to establish keeper liability.
The Defendant is the registered keeper of the vehicle but the
Claimant has provided no evidence as to the identity of the
driver.
The Defendant is under no obligation to identify the driver and
declines to do so.
In the absence of evidence as to the identity of the driver and
with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 being
inapplicable, the claim has no lawful basis against the
Defendant as keeper.
The Claimant is therefore put to strict proof that the land in
question constitutes “relevant land” within the meaning of
Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.
The Defendant respectfully states that the claim is without
merit and should therefore be dismissed.
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Thank you for reading!
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