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Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: luke2397 Date: March 1, 2026, 10:36 am
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[quote author=Bella54 link=topic=10077.msg111648#msg111648
date=1772380493]
So there's bays designated A-Z and then roughly 10 "V" bays.
We have 2 parking permits one says "Bay 'X' only" the other says
"Bay 'X' or V only" one of my tickets was because my partner was
parked in our dedicated bay and there was no space in a V bay
for me. The other one I was parked in our dedicated bay and
forgot to put my permit on the dash.
[/quote]
If your HA has issued 2 parking permits to you one "X only" and
one "V" for visitors bays on site, then it might be worth
contacting them directly to see if they can get these cancelled.
Also see if you can find a NtK (notice to Keeper) that should
have been sent to you too as what you've uploaded so far states
photo's have been taken by an operator, which you should be
given the opportunity to view.
Might be worth submitting a SAR's request to PCM or even HA if
they are the ones who issue the permits?
PCM offer a "Virtual Visitors permit App" service also so I'd be
making some enquires with both HA and PCM in the interim to
avoid getting anymore of these for now.
[/quote]
See attached the 3 letters I've found from PCM.
HTML https://pasteboard.co/eI4UYfueULn3.jpg
HTML https://pasteboard.co/w0NqCYYdRQWb.jpg
HTML https://pasteboard.co/3PNUzpbfeBxB.jpg
it's worth noting that I don't live in a HA. There's other
dedicated spaces for them but I parked in one as there wasn't
any V spaces free when I got home from work and there is always
HA bays free.
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Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: DWMB2 Date: March 2, 2026, 6:09 am
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[quote author=andy_foster link=topic=10077.msg111615#msg111615
date=1772365172]
As regards your assigned space, how is it assigned? Is it
included in the lease? If so, what exactly does the lease say
about parking and communal areas?
[/quote]
You have told us what is on your permits, but you still need to
answer this.
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Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: InterCity125 Date: March 2, 2026, 7:16 am
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[quote author=InterCity125 link=topic=10077.msg111646#msg111646
date=1772378406]
Have you received any postal 'Notice to Keeper' for either of
these alleged contraventions?
I ask due to the dates on the original NtDs - if NtDs are what
these are - they are poorly worded.
[/quote]
This question remains unanswered?
How did Trace get your address if you only received Notice to
Driver PCNs?
#Post#: 111761--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: luke2397 Date: March 2, 2026, 9:43 am
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[quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=10077.msg111731#msg111731
date=1772453370]
[quote author=andy_foster link=topic=10077.msg111615#msg111615
date=1772365172]
As regards your assigned space, how is it assigned? Is it
included in the lease? If so, what exactly does the lease say
about parking and communal areas?
[/quote]
You have told us what is on your permits, but you still need to
answer this.
[/quote]
I haven't signed a lease, the flat is owned by my parents. I
don't know exactly how the spaces are assigned. We have our
dedicated bay and the V bays out the front with permits giving
permission to park in the bay according to our permit
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Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: luke2397 Date: March 2, 2026, 9:44 am
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[quote author=InterCity125 link=topic=10077.msg111741#msg111741
date=1772457403]
[quote author=InterCity125 link=topic=10077.msg111646#msg111646
date=1772378406]
Have you received any postal 'Notice to Keeper' for either of
these alleged contraventions?
I ask due to the dates on the original NtDs - if NtDs are what
these are - they are poorly worded.
[/quote]
This question remains unanswered?
How did Trace get your address if you only received Notice to
Driver PCNs?
[/quote]
The 3 links above show a 'notice to keeper' from PCM.
HTML https://pasteboard.co/3PNUzpbfeBxB.jpg
HTML https://pasteboard.co/w0NqCYYdRQWb.jpg
HTML https://pasteboard.co/eI4UYfueULn3.jpg
Attached again
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Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: mickR Date: March 2, 2026, 4:16 pm
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[quote author=luke2397 link=topic=10077.msg111761#msg111761
date=1772466225]
I haven't signed a lease, the flat is owned by my parents. I
don't know exactly how the spaces are assigned
[/quote]
so, after you were asked, what did your parents say is actually
written in their lease when you asked them?
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Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: luke2397 Date: March 2, 2026, 4:57 pm
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[quote author=mickR link=topic=10077.msg111812#msg111812
date=1772489792]
[quote author=luke2397 link=topic=10077.msg111761#msg111761
date=1772466225]
I haven't signed a lease, the flat is owned by my parents. I
don't know exactly how the spaces are assigned
[/quote]
so, after you were asked, what did your parents say is actually
written in their lease when you asked them?
[/quote]
I feel this is moving away from the topic at hand? I haven't
asked about any lease agreement. I know that I have breached
"parking rules" all I am asking is are Trace cowboys that I can
ignore as I haven't parked illegally I have simply forgotten to
use my permit or there wasn't sufficient spaces for me to park
at my own home. Therefore all I am asking is will that hold up
and am I likely for this to be escalated to a CCJ?
#Post#: 111827--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: Fluffykins Date: March 2, 2026, 11:34 pm
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The lease agreement very likely trumps any "rules" the parking
co. and HA might try to impose, both by virtue of what it might
say and equally what it might not say.
You are being advised by experienced people who do seem to help
win cases. If they ask for specific information, it's because it
can be important.
Also note: things don't get "escalated to a CCJ".
You might do well to read a few other threads here, after you've
answered the question.
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Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: luke2397 Date: March 3, 2026, 2:17 am
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[quote author=Fluffykins link=topic=10077.msg111827#msg111827
date=1772516075]
The lease agreement very likely trumps any "rules" the parking
co. and HA might try to impose, both by virtue of what it might
say and equally what it might not say.
You are being advised by experienced people who do seem to help
win cases. If they ask for specific information, it's because it
can be important.
Also note: things don't get "escalated to a CCJ".
You might do well to read a few other threads here, after you've
answered the question.
[/quote]
Right, is there anything specific I'm looking for in the lease
agreement that I can post here? Providing I can find it
#Post#: 111841--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parking fine at my own home
By: InterCity125 Date: March 3, 2026, 2:28 am
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Is there anything which relates to "Parking" or similar?
In other news, the NtK's are not PoFA compliant but there is no
way that either the operator or the debt collector will admit
that at this time - we can however use this at a later date.
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