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       #Post#: 111515--------------------------------------------------
       Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: beedmo
       Date: February 28, 2026, 8:11 am
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       Hello all,
       PCN:
  HTML https://imgpile.com/p/YKD89Bs
       GSV is 5 years old in the area and shows completely different
       restriction times.
       My mum has received this in the post. She’s completely bang to
       rights on the offence even if it is only 5 mins.
       I’ve had a brief look for any procedural issues on the PCN,
       however, can’t find any. Wondering if another set of eyes can
       see something before she gives this money hungry council any
       money.
       TIA
       #Post#: 111545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 28, 2026, 12:02 pm
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       Is this the location ?
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/oGf3ANK6oENgC2eQA
       If it is, please tell us the revised times please.
       #Post#: 111559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: beedmo
       Date: February 28, 2026, 1:31 pm
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       Yes, that’s the road it’s as follows
       SS19 Mayfield Primary School, High Lane, Hanwell, W7 3RT. Times:
       8.30 - 9.15am and 2.30 - 3.30pm
       #Post#: 111571--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 28, 2026, 4:25 pm
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       Any reason for entering within the restricted times ? 5 minutes
       in would not be considered de minimis, I'm afraid. In addition
       to the restriction signs, they have put up a warning sign for
       those thinking of turning right off Mayfield Gardens.
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/DBrDWvxbNjdMFU3s6
       PCN looks kosher to me. However don't just cough-up the
       discount. Submit reps on the lines of "awfully sorry, thought I
       was outside the restricted times, only 5 minutes into the
       restriction etc; i.e don't be confrontational in any way. They
       will re-offer the discount if/when they reject the reps.
       #Post#: 111611--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: beedmo
       Date: March 1, 2026, 5:09 am
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       The reason was she was viewing a house as we’re currently
       waiting for court documents to come after receiving a section
       21.
       I’ve attempted to get Ealing Council to use their discretion
       before when I got a parking ticket outside my house after
       spending the whole night in A&E. I don’t have a permit because
       I’m usually at work at times of enforcement. They didn’t even
       acknowledge my reps and simply said I was observed by a CEO
       parked without a permit.
       I will try at the very least because at least it will give her a
       little extra time to pay. Will probably write up the reps and
       submit on the last day to give even more time.
       Thanks for the advice
       #Post#: 122302--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: beedmo
       Date: June 19, 2026, 2:03 am
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       My mum just reminded me that she hasn't heard back from ealing
       council regarding this.
       I've had a look at the PCN on the system and it says that a NTO
       has been sent, I'm assuming this is the inital fine received
       through the post. No Rejection of reps or anything from the
       council?
       I would assume it would be taken off the PCN system if there was
       an acceptance of reps. Should I chase it up or wait?
       #Post#: 122323--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 19, 2026, 4:20 am
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       --- Quote from: beedmo link ---
       >
       > My mum just reminded me that she hasn't heard back from ealing
       council regarding this.
       >
       > I've had a look at the PCN on the system and it says that a
       NTO has been sent, I'm assuming this is the inital fine received
       through the post. No Rejection of reps or anything from the
       council?
       >
       > I would assume it would be taken off the PCN system if there
       was an acceptance of reps. Should I chase it up or wait?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       How long since the reps were submitted ?
       #Post#: 122337--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: beedmo
       Date: June 19, 2026, 6:01 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       >
       > How long since the reps were submitted ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't have an exact time of them being submitted but they were
       submitted in the 28 day window. The system is showing add
       further information in place of challenge. The end of the 28
       days to submit reps would be 30th March.
       I believe you're getting at the 56 day statutory requirement to
       reply. If reps were submitted at the latest date - they were
       submitted much earlier - the latest they could reply would be
       25th May.
       Have I got that right?
       #Post#: 122384--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: Avastpcn
       Date: June 19, 2026, 11:05 am
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       I'm no expert but the fact that the letter says "date of notice"
       being when the clock starts ticking for the discount, instead of
       date of SERVICE of the notice, means that the letter is
       non-compliant i believe.
       The law allows for a discount. They can't be reducing the length
       of time you have. "Date of service" is a legally defined
       concept. Good luck
       #Post#: 122388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ealing PCN - 53J - High Lane, Hanwell
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: June 19, 2026, 11:52 am
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       --- Quote from: beedmo link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Incandescent
       link=topic=10076.msg122323#msg122323 date=1781860838]
       >
       > How long since the reps were submitted ?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't have an exact time of them being submitted but they were
       submitted in the 28 day window. The system is showing add
       further information in place of challenge. The end of the 28
       days to submit reps would be 30th March.
       I believe you're getting at the 56 day statutory requirement to
       reply. If reps were submitted at the latest date - they were
       submitted much earlier - the latest they could reply would be
       25th May.
       Have I got that right?
       [/quote]
       No, not quite
       The 56 days is the mandatory response period for formal reps
       against a Notice to Owner under the Traffic Management Act, so
       doesn't apply to your mum's PCN which is under the LLA & TfL Act
       2003
       However, London Tribunals have made clear that delays of more
       than 3 months in replies to formal representations ca be
       considered unfair and grounds for cancellation of a PCN unless
       the authority have a very good reason.
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